Been waiting for this one, thanks!

On 8/22/07, DJ wrote:

Hi Gimp-user,

A friend sent me a link to a new GIMP book, "The Artist's Guide to GIMP Effects" to be published this month. There was a reference to it in the Javascript book he was reading from the same publisher. The sample tutorial looked good.

http://nostarch.com/frameset.php?startat=gimp

Just thought I'd pass it on.

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On 22/08/07, DJ wrote:

Hi Gimp-user,

A friend sent me a link to a new GIMP book, "The Artist's Guide to GIMP Effects" to be published this month. There was a reference to it in the Javascript book he was reading from the same publisher. The sample tutorial looked good.

http://nostarch.com/frameset.php?startat=gimp

Just thought I'd pass it on.

Very nice, the sample chapters were amazing. This seems to be written for Gimp 2.2, but 2.4 will have significant changes. Can you (or the author) address that issue?

Dotan Cohen

http://lyricslist.com/ http://what-is-what.com/

On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 05:12:39 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:

Very nice, the sample chapters were amazing. This seems to be written for Gimp 2.2, but 2.4 will have significant changes. Can you (or the author) address that issue?

The first part of the introduction in the book covers this. It took 2 1/3 years to get the book published, so starting with 2.2 seemed reasonable at the time. Also, it will be some time before all the major distributions get updated to the requirements for 2.4 and have those distributions propogated to the general public. So even though 2.4 is due soon, 2.2 isn't disappearing soon from a great many users desktops.

In the end, though, the changes for 2.4 don't greatly affect the tutorials. Mostly what changes is the location of menu options, which I believe I've addressed in the book but will update on the web site as I become aware of the errata. New features in 2.4 are not used in the tutorials (it's a 2.2 based text, after all) and none of the old features used in the tutorials went away. Mostly those features just changed slightly in appearance or work better "under the hood" in 2.4.

If you're interested in dicussing the book or issues related to the GIMP, I set up a web site for the book: http://www.graphics-muse.org/artistsguide/

The book should just about be ready for shipping from retailers. I was just notified that my author copies will be sent soon.

On 23/08/07, Michael J. Hammel wrote:

If you're interested in dicussing the book or issues related to the GIMP, I set up a web site for the book: http://www.graphics-muse.org/artistsguide/

That site looks like an unofficial blog- it does not due justice to the sample chapters that I saw. It makes me think that the book is as cheap as the website. Change it, quick!

Dotan Cohen

http://lyricslist.com/ http://what-is-what.com/

--- Dotan Cohen wrote:

Very nice, the sample chapters were amazing. This seems to be written for Gimp 2.2, but 2.4 will have significant changes. Can you (or the author) address that issue?

Speaking of books, I have Beginning Gimp, which was published in '06 but says it includes material on the "latest 2.4 release"

Wha?

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On Aug 23, 2007, at 2:08 PM, Greg wrote:

--- Dotan Cohen wrote:

Very nice, the sample chapters were amazing. This seems to be written for Gimp 2.2, but 2.4 will have significant changes. Can you (or the author) address that issue?

Speaking of books, I have Beginning Gimp, which was published in '06 but says it includes material on the "latest 2.4 release"

Wha?

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Actually that book was written based on a development snapshot of GIMP. I find it to be a very useful book IMHO. I'm not sure how relevant it will continue to be though, based on the fact that the author really seems to have jumped the gun in regards to the GIMP 2.4 release. When you think about it, that book has been out for several months now, and was obviously being written for several months prior to the release (as is the nature of any book). The snapshot she was using could end up being far different from what 2.4 actually turns out to be.

I still find it to be a good book with helpful tips though.

--Mike H

On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 10:48:01 -0400, Michael Hernandez wrote:

On Aug 23, 2007, at 2:08 PM, Greg wrote:

Speaking of books, I have Beginning Gimp, which was published in '06 but says it includes material on the "latest 2.4 release"

Wha?

Actually that book was written based on a development snapshot of GIMP. I find it to be a very useful book IMHO. I'm not sure how relevant it will continue to be though, based on the fact that the author really seems to have jumped the gun in regards to the GIMP 2.4 release. [...]

Many users and developers were hoping for GIMP 2.4 to be released around the end of summer last year. Alas, that didn't happen because it took a long time to fix some nasty bugs, then it was decided to include some new features because the release was not ready anyway, then more bugs popped in, then it also took a while to fix them, then even more features were added, even more bugs were discovered and fixed, and so on...

It is not surprising that the authors of some books were hoping for 2.4 to be released earlier. Maybe they were a bit too optimistic, but I wouldn't blame them for that.

Now that we already have the first release candidate with lots of nice features (and a few bugs that have already been fixed), we are finally getting very close to the official release of GIMP 2.4.

-Raphaël

On Aug 24, 2007, at 11:22 AM, Raphaël Quinet wrote:

On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 10:48:01 -0400, Michael Hernandez wrote:

On Aug 23, 2007, at 2:08 PM, Greg wrote:

Speaking of books, I have Beginning Gimp, which was published in '06 but says it includes material on the "latest 2.4 release"

Wha?

Actually that book was written based on a development snapshot of GIMP. I find it to be a very useful book IMHO. I'm not sure how relevant it will continue to be though, based on the fact that the author really seems to have jumped the gun in regards to the GIMP 2.4 release. [...]

Many users and developers were hoping for GIMP 2.4 to be released around the end of summer last year. Alas, that didn't happen because it took a long time to fix some nasty bugs, then it was decided to include some new features because the release was not ready anyway, then more bugs popped in, then it also took a while to fix them, then even more features were added, even more bugs were discovered and fixed, and so on...

It is not surprising that the authors of some books were hoping for 2.4 to be released earlier. Maybe they were a bit too optimistic, but I wouldn't blame them for that.

Now that we already have the first release candidate with lots of nice features (and a few bugs that have already been fixed), we are finally getting very close to the official release of GIMP 2.4.

That is great news! Now I just hope it hasn't changed so much that my nice full color gloss beginning GIMP book is full of lies! :)

--Mike H

Michael Hernandez wrote:

That is great news! Now I just hope it hasn't changed so much that my nice full color gloss beginning GIMP book is full of lies! :)

Its more likely a plot by the publishing house to sell more books when you release the second edition which covers the real GIMP 2.4 release. ;-)