On Sun, Oct 01, 2006 at 08:11:43PM -0600, Alex Feldman wrote:

I just installed FC5, which comes with Gimp, but there is no gimpui.pc file.

Gutenprint looks for it before it makes the print plugin for Gimp, which is what I am after. So do I need to find this file somewhere and put it in my PKG_CONFIG_PATH, or is there some other way to get Gutenprint to make that plugin?

probably you need to install libgimp-dev or whatever it is called on FC5.

carol

On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 05:32:07 -0600, Alex Feldman wrote:

OK, is there a place I can get more information on this? Google showed up surprisingly little for libgimp2.0-dev, and most of it was either for Debian or not in English (which I prefer). Can I just download the package from the Debian site and install it in FC5? I've never done that before.

Certainly not! It is unlikely that a Debian package will install cleanly in FC5. And even if you manage to install it (e.g., using alien to convert the package), it is very likely that your system will be unusable or at least unmaintainable after that.

Some Linux distributors have decided to split the GIMP files in two or more packages: one of them (usually just called "gimp") contains the files that are needed for normal usage and another one (usually called "gimp-dev" or "gimp-devel" or something similar) contains the files that are only needed if you want to build and install plug-ins. The latter usually includes the header files, the *.pc files needed by pkgconfig, etc. It should not be too hard for you to find the right package for your distribution.

-Raphaël

* Alex Feldman [10-02-06 08:27]:

I can't find any sort of development package for gimp for FC5 separate from the Gimp itself. I've googled, looked on the Gimp downloads page, the Gimp Unix page, and searched RedHat, and Sourceforge. I can't find it. But neither can I find anything with a name like libgimp-dev on my computer.

Just not looking in the right place....

http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/4/idpl/3182948/com/gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm.html

Name : gimp-devel Version : 2.2.13 Vendor : Red Hat, Inc_ Release : 1.fc5 Date : 2006-08-28 09:25:44 Group : Applications/Multimedia Source RPM : gimp-2.2.13-1.fc5.src.rpm
Size : 5799196
Packager : Red Hat, Inc_ < http://bugzilla_redhat_com/bugzilla> Summary : GIMP plugin and extension development kit Description :
The gimp-devel package contains the static libraries and header files for writing GNU Image Manipulation Program (GIMP) plug-ins and extensions.

mirror.switch.ch gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm ftp.uni-bayreuth.de gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm sunsite.auc.dk gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm chuck.ucs.indiana.edu gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm ftp.rediris.es gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm ftp.rhnet.is gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm ftp.kddlabs.co.jp gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm ftp.nluug.nl gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm ftp.pbone.net gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm ftp.icm.edu.pl gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm ftp.chg.ru gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm ftp.sunet.se gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm ftp.isu.edu.tw gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm ftp.is.co.za gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm

http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/4/idpl/3182930/com/gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm.html

Name : gimp-devel Version : 2.2.13 Vendor : Red Hat, Inc_ Release : 1.fc5 Date : 2006-08-28 09:25:50 Group : Applications/Multimedia Source RPM : gimp-2.2.13-1.fc5.src.rpm
Size : 5367452
Packager : Red Hat, Inc_ < http://bugzilla_redhat_com/bugzilla> Summary : GIMP plugin and extension development kit Description :
The gimp-devel package contains the static libraries and header files for writing GNU Image Manipulation Program (GIMP) plug-ins and extensions.

ftp.univie.ac.at gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm mirror.switch.ch gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm ftp.uni-bayreuth.de gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm sunsite.auc.dk gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm chuck.ucs.indiana.edu gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm ftp.rediris.es gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm ftp.ntua.gr gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm ftp.rhnet.is gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm ftp.kddlabs.co.jp gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm ftp.nluug.nl gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm ftp.task.gda.pl gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm ftp.pbone.net gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm ftp.icm.edu.pl gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm ftp.chg.ru gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm ftp.sunet.se gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm ftp.isu.edu.tw gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm ftp.is.co.za gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm

On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 06:24:25 -0600, Alex Feldman wrote:

OK, let me restate the question. I can't find any sort of development package for gimp for FC5 separate from the Gimp itself. I've googled, looked on the Gimp downloads page, the Gimp Unix page, and searched RedHat, and Sourceforge. I can't find it. But neither can I find anything with a name like libgimp-dev on my computer.

I don't use Fedora, but it wasn't hard for me to discover that there is indeed a package called gimp-devel for FC5:

http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=gimp-devel&system=fedora

But please don't lose sight of my original question - I just want to have Gutenprint make the print plugin, which it is not presently doing. From my examination of the configuration log, it appears that it wants the gimpui.pc file, which seems like a reasonable thing to want, but I don't know. I didn't see anything in the Release notes, so it seems like if it was there once, it ought to still be there.

The main purpose of the *.pc files is to include the right directories and compiler options that are specific to your system in order to ensure that the plug-ins can be built and installed correctly. The file gimpui-2.0.pc is automatically generated when GIMP is built and there must be some package for your distribution that includes the appropriate version of this file. It is important to use the right package for your distribution because each distribution is likely to use slightly different directories or compiler options for building and installing GIMP. If you take some random *.pc file from another distribution, you are likely to break things. So please install the correct package (gimp-devel-2.2.13) and it should work fine.

If gimpui-2.0.pc is not included in the gimp-devel package, then you should report a bug in the Fedora bug tracker, because this is problem in the distribution and not a GIMP bug.

-Raphaël

On Mon, Oct 02, 2006 at 05:32:07AM -0600, Alex Feldman wrote:

OK, is there a place I can get more information on this? Google showed up surprisingly little for libgimp2.0-dev, and most of it was either for Debian or not in English (which I prefer). Can I just download the package from the Debian site and install it in FC5? I've never done that before.

it takes a little time to get used to working with your distribution. as a debian user, i often need to get help from people who are making the debs or people who have been using it for a while.

i attempted to help you understand what to look for.

i deleted everything below your message to this list since you were not obviously responding directly to anything that was there.

could you help me to help you? paste your original question into an email and then paste my original response to your question right below that (making the email appear more like a conversation). occasionally, when writing email to friends and family, i manually make fake line breaks and add a '>' so that they can read it more easily. then below this, suggest what i could have said better that would have helped you to understand your distribution better?

http://www.gimp.org/mail_lists.html List Etiquette -- the suggestions there for email formation, while not exactly the direction that Web 2.0 seems to be going, they do make corresponding via email much easier.

thanks,

carol

* Alex Feldman [10-02-06 22:32]:

I guess I'm spoiled and feel like I ought to be able to find all these things in a few standard places. I'll try to be more painstaking next time.

Now, if we could just get you to trim your qutes a little :^)