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changes in gimp 2.8

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changes in gimp 2.8 Josh Stratton 13 Sep 23:12
  changes in gimp 2.8 Michael Schumacher 14 Sep 11:03
   changes in gimp 2.8 Richard Gitschlag 14 Sep 12:09
   changes in gimp 2.8 maderios 15 Sep 08:04
    changes in gimp 2.8 Tobias Jakobs 15 Sep 09:51
Josh Stratton
2013-09-13 23:12:08 UTC (about 11 years ago)

changes in gimp 2.8

I just upgraded to ubuntu 12.10 and noticed a couple of changes in gimp 2.8 that seemed really annoying to me.

First, why is the save feature only applying to gimp file formats? What was the motivation behind this besides being different, which seems like justification enough in the open-source UI world? Was there a problem with people accidentally losing their layers and this is to force them to use xcf files now? It only alienates people who are used to using Ctrl-S to save images. I know you lose information flattening a scene to png, but was that a huge gripe users had previously and now this will force them to save xcfs? It seemed to work fine for years in the same way photoshop has. It's the exact same dialog. Was this really a developer consensus or just some feature that someone said why not? Just curious.

Second, it seems the text tool has been refactored a bit. Now when I go to type text, it has a fixed size of 18 pixels. If I raise this amount, and select the text in the text box again, the number reverts back to 18 and I get small text. What's going on here? Is there a different workflow now for selecting that number?

Thanks.

Michael Schumacher
2013-09-14 11:03:23 UTC (about 11 years ago)

changes in gimp 2.8

On 14.09.2013 01:12, Josh Stratton wrote:

Was this really a developer consensus

Yes. http://gui.gimp.org/index.php/Save_%2B_export_specification

Second, it seems the text tool has been refactored a bit. Now when I go to type text, it has a fixed size of 18 pixels. If I raise this amount, and select the text in the text box again, the number reverts back to 18 and I get small text. What's going on here? Is there a different workflow now for selecting that number?

Where do you change the text size - in the tool options dialog or the on-canvas dialog?

Regards,
Michael
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Richard Gitschlag
2013-09-14 12:09:33 UTC (about 11 years ago)

changes in gimp 2.8

Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2013 13:03:23 +0200 From: schumaml@gmx.de
To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] changes in gimp 2.8

Second, it seems the text tool has been refactored a bit. Now when I go to type text, it has a fixed size of 18 pixels. If I raise this amount, and select the text in the text box again, the number reverts back to 18 and I get small text. What's going on here? Is there a different workflow now for selecting that number?

Where do you change the text size - in the tool options dialog or the on-canvas dialog?

Very important to learn for 2.8 is that the font size in the Tool Options dialog controls the "default" size of the text object, while the on-canvas dialog is a secondary size that only applies to selected text within that object, i.e. you can mix different sizes/styles in the same text layer (similar to a traditional word processor). Powerful, but you have to know it exists first.

For example, if you have a text object with a default size of 18pt but one word in there is manually set to 12pt (67%), if you change the default size to 24 then the other word becomes 16 points (still 67%).

-- Stratadrake strata_ranger@hotmail.com
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Numbers may not lie, but neither do they tell the whole truth.

maderios
2013-09-15 08:04:49 UTC (about 11 years ago)

changes in gimp 2.8

On 09/14/2013 01:03 PM, Michael Schumacher wrote:

On 14.09.2013 01:12, Josh Stratton wrote:

Was this really a developer consensus

Yes. http://gui.gimp.org/index.php/Save_%2B_export_specification

Hi
When using a simple tool to perform simple tasks requires a long philosophical explanation, we can say that there is a problem somewhere in its design...
Greetings

Maderios
Tobias Jakobs
2013-09-15 09:51:54 UTC (about 11 years ago)

changes in gimp 2.8

2013/9/15 maderios :

When using a simple tool to perform simple tasks requires a long philosophical explanation, we can say that there is a problem somewhere in its design...

But Gimp is not a simple tool to perform simple tasks. Have a look at the product vision:
http://gui.gimp.org/index.php/GIMP_UI_Redesign#product_vision

So it's OK, that Gimp is not optimised for simple Tasks.

Regards, Tobias