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double exposure jenn golden 04 Nov 14:56
  double exposure Richard Gitschlag 04 Nov 15:10
   double exposure Tobias Lunte 04 Nov 15:18
    double exposure Richard Gitschlag 05 Nov 02:58
    double exposure Richard Gitschlag 05 Nov 19:01
     double exposure yahvuu 06 Nov 21:07
      double exposure jenn golden 07 Nov 02:31
       double exposure vlastat60@gmail.com 07 Nov 21:26
        double exposure Patrick Shanahan 07 Nov 21:33
jenn golden
2012-11-04 14:56:58 UTC (about 12 years ago)

double exposure

Is there a way to use this program to create a double exposure effect? I can do it with my 35mm camera manually while taking pics. But was not sure if you can create the same digitally??

Thank you! Jenn

Richard Gitschlag
2012-11-04 15:10:37 UTC (about 12 years ago)

double exposure

If it's the term I'm thinking of there are maybe twenty different ways to do this in GIMP. But all of them have one thing in common - you need to import both source images as separate layers in the same image window.

From that point you can: 1 - Set the top layer's mode to either Brightest or Addition (neither one precisely reproduces an actual double exposure, but they're close) 2 - Keep the top layer's mode Normal and use the Eraser (or a layer mask) to fade the edges/transition between them.

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Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 09:56:58 -0500 From: ellimae288@gmail.com
To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Subject: [Gimp-user] double exposure

Is there a way to use this program to create a double exposure effect? I can do it with my 35mm camera manually while taking pics. But was not sure if you can create the same digitally?? Thank you!

Jenn

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Tobias Lunte
2012-11-04 15:18:39 UTC (about 12 years ago)

double exposure

Hello,

afaik, the "Screen" blend mode is a more accurate reproduction of a double exposure. However, it will brighten up your image, so if the two photos weren't underexposed to begin with (which they are when you actually make a double-exposure on film), you'll have to adjust the values. Don't worry, the Screen mode doesn't result in clipping, so usually you don't loose all that much information.

bw, Tobl

Am 04.11.2012 16:10, schrieb Richard Gitschlag:

If it's the term I'm thinking of there are maybe twenty different ways to do this in GIMP. But all of them have one thing in common - you need to import both source images as separate layers in the same image window.

From that point you can: 1 - Set the top layer's mode to either Brightest or Addition (neither one precisely reproduces an actual double exposure, but they're close) 2 - Keep the top layer's mode Normal and use the Eraser (or a layer mask) to fade the edges/transition between them.

-- Stratadrake strata_ranger@hotmail.com
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------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 09:56:58 -0500 From: ellimae288@gmail.com
To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Subject: [Gimp-user] double exposure

Is there a way to use this program to create a double exposure effect? I can do it with my 35mm camera manually while taking pics. But was not sure if you can create the same digitally??

Thank you! Jenn

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Richard Gitschlag
2012-11-05 02:58:55 UTC (about 12 years ago)

double exposure

Generally speaking, in terms of the resulting brightness when you blend two layers, Addition > Screen > Lighten Only.

The online GIMP manual explains layer blending modes in more detail (albeit not in the same order they are shown in actual GIMP 2.8's dropdown menu of blending modes :\ )

http://docs.gimp.org/2.8/en/gimp-concepts-layer-modes.html

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Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 16:18:39 +0100 From: tobias.lunte@hfg-gmuend.de
To: ellimae288@gmail.com
CC: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] double exposure




Hello,

afaik, the "Screen" blend mode is a more accurate reproduction of a double exposure. However, it will brighten up your image, so if the two photos weren't underexposed to begin with (which they are when you actually make a double-exposure on film), you'll have to adjust the values. Don't worry, the Screen mode doesn't result in clipping, so usually you don't loose all that much information.

bw,

Tobl

Am 04.11.2012 16:10, schrieb Richard Gitschlag:





If it's the term I'm thinking of there are maybe twenty different ways to do this in GIMP. But all of them have one thing in common - you need to import both source images as separate layers in the same image window.

From that point you can:

1 - Set the top layer's mode to either Brightest or Addition (neither one precisely reproduces an actual double exposure, but they're close)

2 - Keep the top layer's mode Normal and use the Eraser (or a layer mask) to fade the edges/transition between them.

-- Stratadrake

strata_ranger@hotmail.com

--------------------

Numbers may not lie, but neither do they tell the whole truth.

Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 09:56:58 -0500

From: ellimae288@gmail.com

To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org

Subject: [Gimp-user] double exposure

Is there a way to use this program to create a double exposure effect? I can do it with my 35mm camera manually while taking pics. But was not sure if you can create the same digitally??


Thank you!

Jenn

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Richard Gitschlag
2012-11-05 19:01:23 UTC (about 12 years ago)

double exposure

PS: Since linear RGB pixels values are typically gamma-encoded representations of some absolutely recorded brightness, I suppose technically for a double-exposure you would have to un-encode the gamma (e.g. apply a Levels adjustment of 0.45 or so), merge the two source layers using Addition blending, then re-encode (e.g. 2.2 Levels adjustment). I did some experiments using two layers with black-to-white gradients rotated 90 degres from each other, and the result of those adjustments was indeed pretty close to the "Screen" blending mode. That's pretty interesting.

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Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 16:18:39 +0100 From: tobias.lunte@hfg-gmuend.de
To: ellimae288@gmail.com
CC: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] double exposure




Hello,

afaik, the "Screen" blend mode is a more accurate reproduction of a double exposure. However, it will brighten up your image, so if the two photos weren't underexposed to begin with (which they are when you actually make a double-exposure on film), you'll have to adjust the values. Don't worry, the Screen mode doesn't result in clipping, so usually you don't loose all that much information.

bw,

Tobl

Am 04.11.2012 16:10, schrieb Richard Gitschlag:





If it's the term I'm thinking of there are maybe twenty different ways to do this in GIMP. But all of them have one thing in common - you need to import both source images as separate layers in the same image window.

From that point you can:

1 - Set the top layer's mode to either Brightest or Addition (neither one precisely reproduces an actual double exposure, but they're close)

2 - Keep the top layer's mode Normal and use the Eraser (or a layer mask) to fade the edges/transition between them.

-- Stratadrake

strata_ranger@hotmail.com

--------------------

Numbers may not lie, but neither do they tell the whole truth.

Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 09:56:58 -0500

From: ellimae288@gmail.com

To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org

Subject: [Gimp-user] double exposure

Is there a way to use this program to create a double exposure effect? I can do it with my 35mm camera manually while taking pics. But was not sure if you can create the same digitally??


Thank you!

Jenn

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yahvuu
2012-11-06 21:07:21 UTC (about 12 years ago)

double exposure

Am 05.11.2012 20:01, schrieb Richard Gitschlag:

PS: Since linear RGB pixels values are typically gamma-encoded representations of some absolutely recorded brightness, I suppose technically for a double-exposure you would have to un-encode the gamma (e.g. apply a Levels adjustment of 0.45 or so), merge the two source layers using Addition blending, then re-encode (e.g. 2.2 Levels adjustment). I did some experiments using two layers with black-to-white gradients rotated 90 degres from each other, and the result of those adjustments was indeed pretty close to the "Screen" blending mode. That's pretty interesting.

this similarity is not by accident:

gamma curves can pretty closely resemble logarithms within the given value range and resolution: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=x^0.8%2C+ln%28x%2B1%29%2Fln%282%29+from+x%3D0+to+1

Adding the logarithms of two layers and subsequent un-logarithmising gives the product of the layers:
ln(a) + ln(b) = ln(a*b)

a*b = exp( ln(a)+ln(b) )

The screen blend mode f(a,b) = 1-(1-a)*(1-b) can be read as multiplication, to be performed with inverted input layers and followed by inversion of the result.

best regards, peter

jenn golden
2012-11-07 02:31:18 UTC (about 12 years ago)

double exposure

I am really new to this program, and not even sure I did it correctly - but see attached! I am very happy with the result! It looks like one I would have done with a 35mm camera!
Jenn

On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 4:07 PM, yahvuu wrote:

Am 05.11.2012 20:01, schrieb Richard Gitschlag:

PS: Since linear RGB pixels values are typically gamma-encoded

representations of some absolutely

recorded brightness, I suppose technically for a double-exposure you

would have to un-encode the

gamma (e.g. apply a Levels adjustment of 0.45 or so), merge the two

source layers using Addition

blending, then re-encode (e.g. 2.2 Levels adjustment). I did some

experiments using two layers with

black-to-white gradients rotated 90 degres from each other, and the

result of those adjustments was

indeed pretty close to the "Screen" blending mode. That's pretty

interesting.
this similarity is not by accident:

gamma curves can pretty closely resemble logarithms within the given value range and resolution:
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=x ^0.8%2C+ln%28x%2B1%29%2Fln%282%29+from+x%3D0+to+1

Adding the logarithms of two layers and subsequent un-logarithmising gives the product of the layers:
ln(a) + ln(b) = ln(a*b)

a*b = exp( ln(a)+ln(b) )

The screen blend mode f(a,b) = 1-(1-a)*(1-b) can be read as multiplication,
to be performed with inverted input layers and followed by inversion of the result.

best regards,
peter

vlastat60@gmail.com
2012-11-07 21:26:47 UTC (about 12 years ago)

double exposure

Hi folks. I've been trying to leave the group. Nothing to do with Gimp( very nice app in my opinion), so I would really appreciate it if you all could help me out with this? Thanks for all the tips and tricks it's been a blast. Make sure to stop and take in whatever view your looking at. You never know what you might miss. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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Patrick Shanahan
2012-11-07 21:33:59 UTC (about 12 years ago)

double exposure

* vlastat60@gmail.com [11-07-12 16:30]:

Hi folks. I've been trying to leave the group. Nothing to do with Gimp( very nice app in my opinion), so I would really appreciate it if you all could help me out with this? Thanks for all the tips and tricks it's been a blast. Make sure to stop and take in whatever view your looking at. You never know what you might miss. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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