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Puzzle about gimp version, continued. Please help!!! Leonard Evens 21 Nov 22:28
  Puzzle about gimp version, continued. Please help!!! Al Bolduc 21 Nov 22:36
  Puzzle about gimp version, continued. Please help!!! Johan Vromans 22 Nov 00:59
  Puzzle about gimp version, continued. Please help!!! Sven Neumann 22 Nov 01:18
   Puzzle about gimp version, continued. Please help!!! Leonard Evens 22 Nov 04:01
Puzzle about gimp version, continued. Please help!!! Leonard Evens 22 Nov 00:50
Leonard Evens
2008-11-21 22:28:22 UTC (about 16 years ago)

Puzzle about gimp version, continued. Please help!!!

Here is a what I posted before and one response ---------------------------------------------------- Leonard Evens wrote:

I recently upgraded my main computer to Fedora 9 from Fedora 7. When I brought gimp up and clicked on 'about' under Help, a window came up claiming it is gimp 2.4.1. But the package is designated 2.4.7, from which I conclude it is really gimp 2.4.7.

Help -> About is much more reliable than the package name.

To find out for sure you can look in the NEWS file for 2.4 and try to reproduce bugs that only existed in one of the versions. Depending on what bugs you can reproduce, you can derive what version you have.

Another way would be to install the source package of the gimp program package and look in the configure.in file, which has the version at the top.

- Martin -------------------------------------------------

Here is some further information. I recently acquired a laptop running Ubuntu 8.04. If I run gimp on it and use Help>About, it says it is 2.4.5. Also, the format of the window is entirely different from that for my Fedora version. It looks like what I got with the latest version of gimp I had under Fedora 7, which I think was 2.4.3.

As Martin suggested, I got the 2.4.7 source package, and expanded it. It contains a tar file labeled 2.4.7, which I've opened, and it certainly seems to be 2.4.7. For example, I've looked at the code and I found

GIMP_VERSION=2.4.7 in .configure.

Also, looking at the files from my Fedora 8 gimp package, it certainly seems I have gimp 2.4.7. That would seem to eliminate the possibility that the package was actually formed from 2.4.1 source and mislabeled.

The most likely explanation seems to me to be that because I also have gimp-help-2.4.1 installed, its version number is replacing the correct one when I use Help>About from within gimp. If I work hard enough with the code, I can determine just what is happening. Also, as Martin suggested, I could try to find some feature not present in gimp 2.4.1 which is present in 2.4.7 by examining the changelogs, but that would also be a lot of work. Undoubtedly it will eventually be clear to me as I proceed using gimp just what I have, but that could take some time, and could lead to a lot of frustration.

Could someone who actually knows clue me in on just what is happening?

Al Bolduc
2008-11-21 22:36:07 UTC (about 16 years ago)

Puzzle about gimp version, continued. Please help!!!

Did you try gimp --version?

Al

Leonard Evens
2008-11-22 00:50:08 UTC (about 16 years ago)

Puzzle about gimp version, continued. Please help!!!

On Fri, 2008-11-21 at 16:36 -0500, Al Bolduc wrote:

Did you try gimp --version?

Al

Thanks for the suggestion. I was in fact calling up version 2.4-1.

That was the result of having previously used different versions of gimp without cleaning up after myself. I won't go into details, but when I chose gimp from the Fedora applications menu, it chose an earlier version I had in /usr/local/bin, but had not been using. I had instead set up a launcher on my taskbar which chose /usr/bin/gimp after setting a default directory. But that didn't work because of a defunct plugin in my.gimp-2.4 directory, so I had created a new .gimp-2.4. As a result, I returned to using /usr/local/bin/gimp (a link to a 2.4.1 version I had previously compiled) without being aware of it. My mistake was in assuming that if I called it up from the Applications menu I would get the version that came with the distribution, but that was in fact wrong!

This is the second time something like this happened to me after the upgrade to Fedora 9. Next time, I hope I will know what to look for before pestering other people. My apologies.

Thanks again.

Johan Vromans
2008-11-22 00:59:02 UTC (about 16 years ago)

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Leonard Evens writes:

Could someone who actually knows clue me in on just what is happening?

The latest Gimp from Fedora 9 updates is 2.4.7. It's About box shows 2.4.7.
gimp --version shows 2.4.7.

The latest gimp-help from Fedora 9 is 2.4.1. Gimp 'About' still shows 2.4.7, even when this gimp-help is installed.

Advice: upgrade to Gimp 2.6. It's much nicer...

-- Johan

Sven Neumann
2008-11-22 01:18:46 UTC (about 16 years ago)

Puzzle about gimp version, continued. Please help!!!

Hi,

On Fri, 2008-11-21 at 15:28 -0600, Leonard Evens wrote:

Here is some further information. I recently acquired a laptop running Ubuntu 8.04. If I run gimp on it and use Help>About, it says it is 2.4.5. Also, the format of the window is entirely different from that for my Fedora version. It looks like what I got with the latest version of gimp I had under Fedora 7, which I think was 2.4.3.

What window is different? And how is it different?

The most likely explanation seems to me to be that because I also have gimp-help-2.4.1 installed, its version number is replacing the correct one when I use Help>About from within gimp. If I work hard enough with the code, I can determine just what is happening.

gimp-help is certainly not affecting this. The version number shown in the About dialog is compiled into the application. There is no way it can show the wrong version number.

Sven

Leonard Evens
2008-11-22 04:01:15 UTC (about 16 years ago)

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On Sat, 2008-11-22 at 01:18 +0100, Sven Neumann wrote:

Hi,

On Fri, 2008-11-21 at 15:28 -0600, Leonard Evens wrote:

Here is some further information. I recently acquired a laptop running Ubuntu 8.04. If I run gimp on it and use Help>About, it says it is 2.4.5. Also, the format of the window is entirely different from that for my Fedora version. It looks like what I got with the latest version of gimp I had under Fedora 7, which I think was 2.4.3.

What window is different? And how is it different?

The most likely explanation seems to me to be that because I also have gimp-help-2.4.1 installed, its version number is replacing the correct one when I use Help>About from within gimp. If I work hard enough with the code, I can determine just what is happening.

gimp-help is certainly not affecting this. The version number shown in the About dialog is compiled into the application. There is no way it can show the wrong version number.

Sven

Thanks for the response.
See my previous note explaining what had happened.