Martin Nordholts writes:

Hi

There is a little button in the upper right corner of each image window with the tooltip "Zoom image when window size changes".

I have never used this and I can't figure out in what way it is useful.

It's useful in that it lets you scale the window exactly as big as you want -- you're not limited to 25%, 33%, 50%, 100% etc.

That said ...

Does anyone ever use it?

I don't (partly because I always forget it's there). I set the "Resize on zoom" preference, and usually scale with the +/-/1 keys.

I suggest we replace it with a shortcut to the "Resize window on zoom" option which I find much more useful.

Does anyone have any objections to this? Should some completely other feature be accessible through that button?

It seems odd to devote space to toggling a preference like that ... in theory, the current functionality seems more useful since it lets you do something that isn't otherwise possible. But as I said, I don't actually use it very often in practice. And it's not very discoverable. I didn't know from the tooltip what it would do and only found out by experimentation. It might be clearer if the tooltip added a few words, e.g. "Zoom image to fit window when window size changes" or "Zoom image proportionally when window size changes".

...Akkana

On Sunday 10 August 2008, Akkana Peck wrote:

Martin Nordholts writes:

Hi

There is a little button in the upper right corner of each image window with the tooltip "Zoom image when window size changes".

I have never used this and I can't figure out in what way it is useful.

It's useful in that it lets you scale the window exactly as big as you want -- you're not limited to 25%, 33%, 50%, 100% etc.

That said ...

Does anyone ever use it?

I don't (partly because I always forget it's there). I set the "Resize on zoom" preference, and usually scale with the +/-/1 keys.

I suggest we replace it with a shortcut to the "Resize window on zoom" option which I find much more useful.

Does anyone have any objections to this? Should some completely other feature be accessible through that button?

It seems odd to devote space to toggling a preference like that ... in theory, the current functionality seems more useful since it lets you do something that isn't otherwise possible. But as I said, I don't actually use it very often in practice. And it's not very discoverable. I didn't know from the tooltip what it would do and only found out by experimentation. It might be clearer if the tooltip added a few words, e.g. "Zoom image to fit window when window size changes" or "Zoom image proportionally when window size changes".

I don't? know how many people actually rely on this toggle. But this is a usefull behavior when you scale up small image by a 2 or 3 times factor (rather usefull), and could be anooying when scalling down.

So maybe, one thing would be to make GIMP's defuaslt behavior to be: - if the image is scaled up and the window is smaller than a certain percent of the screen(like 60%, or space for the main window + dockables at the sides), the iamge window would increase in size - if the image is scaled down, do not reduce window size. (Or reduce to the minimum size where all menus would fit in the menu bar)

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...Akkana

Hi,

On Sun, 2008-08-10 at 15:28 +0200, Martin Nordholts wrote:

There is a little button in the upper right corner of each image window with the tooltip "Zoom image when window size changes".

I have never used this and I can't figure out in what way it is useful. Does anyone ever use it?

I suggest we replace it with a shortcut to the "Resize window on zoom" option which I find much more useful.

I don't think it is useful to use this place for a preference toggle that is unlikely to be changed frequently. The current button has been added on user request. I don't really see why we should remove it now, or worse, change its meaning.

Let's keep it for 2.6 and give Peter a chance to think about what should happen to it.

Sven

Hi,

On Tue, 2008-08-12 at 19:06 +0200, Martin Nordholts wrote:

One adjustment to the behaviour was also agreed upon: When the toggle is turned on and the (scaled) image is smaller than and within the viewport, implicitly do a View -> Fit Image in Image Window.

That sounds like a good idea to me. Let's do that.

Sven

Quoting Martin Nordholts :

One adjustment to the behaviour was also agreed upon: When the toggle is turned on and the (scaled) image is smaller than and within the viewport, implicitly do a View -> Fit Image in Image Window.

Would it also not be reasonable to perform a Fit Image whenever the button is toggled on? This would provide easier access to Fit Image than the menus and be fairly intuitive. You wouldn't change modes unless you desired a fitted view and you should not need to wait for a window resize to obtain it.