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GIMP User Interface Esteban Barahona 02 Aug 19:29
  GIMP User Interface Sven Neumann 02 Aug 20:19
   GIMP User Interface Esteban Barahona 02 Aug 20:34
    GIMP User Interface Sven Neumann 02 Aug 22:42
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  GIMP User Interface Sven Neumann 02 Aug 23:09
Esteban Barahona
2007-08-02 19:29:43 UTC (over 17 years ago)

GIMP User Interface

2007/8/2, Sven Neumann :

Hi,

On 8/2/07, Esteban Barahona wrote:

and one of 1 Dimension Menus which is a bit more matured (see

attachment...

In general it is considered a bad idea to send attachments to mailing-lists. No matter how small they are. Please upload things to your website or use the public Wiki and post a link.

I forgot the attachment. But later I send an e-mail with attachments that apparently didn't pass moderation.

here's the mock-up http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/61253775/

and here's the idea of 1 Dimension Menus explained: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/61254113/

can this be implemented using GTK?

And please change the subject to something meaningful when you reply to

the mailing-list digest.

Sven

I didn't realized that when replying to mailing lists' diggests the subject was not meaningful until I read the archives. Since it's basic netiquette I will be more careful from now on.

Sven Neumann
2007-08-02 20:19:20 UTC (over 17 years ago)

GIMP User Interface

Hi,

On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 11:29 -0600, Esteban Barahona wrote:

here's the mock-up
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/61253775/

and here's the idea of 1 Dimension Menus explained: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/61254113/

Sorry, but these images are simply too small. The text can hardly be read.

can this be implemented using GTK?

Short answer: No.

Long answer: You could implement a user interface that makes use of transparency like this but it would only work on a very small subset of the operating systems and hardware that we support currently. Perhaps if you waited another five years, it could be considered.

Sven

Esteban Barahona
2007-08-02 20:34:22 UTC (over 17 years ago)

GIMP User Interface

2007/8/2, Sven Neumann :

Hi,

On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 11:29 -0600, Esteban Barahona wrote:

here's the mock-up
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/61253775/

and here's the idea of 1 Dimension Menus explained: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/61254113/

Sorry, but these images are simply too small. The text can hardly be read.

Changed the default size, now the text should be more readable.

can this be implemented using GTK?

Short answer: No.

Long answer: You could implement a user interface that makes use of transparency like this but it would only work on a very small subset of the operating systems and hardware that we support currently. Perhaps if you waited another five years, it could be considered.

Sven

In the first image the transparency shows what is hided, not how it will be displayed. In the second there is transparency, but the idea is to have more space when selecting an item. Can a hide-unhide vertical menu be implemented for the tools using GTK?

Sven Neumann
2007-08-02 22:42:35 UTC (over 17 years ago)

GIMP User Interface

Hi,

On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 12:34 -0600, Esteban Barahona wrote:

In the first image the transparency shows what is hided, not how it will be displayed.

Still this kind of user interface would need support from the toolkit. I don't think it can be written on top of what is available in GTK+ now.

In the second there is transparency, but the idea is to have more space when selecting an item. Can a hide-unhide vertical menu be implemented for the tools using GTK?

Pretty much anything can be done. Someone just needs to write the code for it. The user interface you are suggesting is interesting and it might be a good idea to explore these ideas further, to code a prototype and to aim for inclusion in GTK+. If GTK+ provided this functionality, I am sure a lot of apps would start using it. GIMP is usually among the first applications to adopt new widgets. So there's a good chance that this would happen here as well.

Sven

Sven Neumann
2007-08-02 23:09:02 UTC (over 17 years ago)

GIMP User Interface

Hi,

On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 23:01 +0200, g4@catking.net wrote:

GTK+ can be ... hmm, a bit refractory to even small change from outside.

That is simply not true. There's just a high quality level which means more API and code review.

How do you think some fairly radical change like this would be best presented?

There is a lot of talk about getting more bling into GTK+ these days. Just hop on the bandwagon. Look at how other people present their fancy ideas for GTK+ improvements. planet.gnome.org is full of them lately.

Sven