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Minimizing when single image or no image open Luke Symes 21 Oct 07:39
  Minimizing when single image or no image open peter sikking 22 Oct 22:54
   Minimizing when single image or no image open Sven Neumann 23 Oct 08:59
    Minimizing when single image or no image open Liam R E Quin 24 Oct 00:24
     Minimizing when single image or no image open Sven Neumann 24 Oct 09:32
Luke Symes
2008-10-21 07:39:22 UTC (over 16 years ago)

Minimizing when single image or no image open

I started a bug report on minimizing dialogs with image windows: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=556896 It seems to have been talked about a little this month already. The basic proposal is:

Should utility hinted dialog windows minimize with the image window if it is the last non-minimized image window? This is also an additional use case for the "No image open" specification: http://gui.gimp.org/index.php/No_image_open_specification

The reason for starting this discussion is (from bug report): "We need the UI team to make a decision on this before any changes can be implemented."
So, hello UI team, are you out there?

peter sikking
2008-10-22 22:54:09 UTC (over 16 years ago)

Minimizing when single image or no image open

Luke wrote:

Should utility hinted dialog windows minimize with the image window if it is
the last non-minimized image window? This is also an additional use case for the "No image open" specification: http://gui.gimp.org/index.php/No_image_open_specification

The reason for starting this discussion is (from bug report): "We need the UI team to make a decision on this before any changes can be
implemented."
So, hello UI team, are you out there?

yes, we are here to save you.

quoting myself from the 5th of October:

minimising all image windows, or the no-image-window, should minimise the whole app, meaning the toolbox and inspectors get hidden.

--ps

founder + principal interaction architect man + machine interface works

http://mmiworks.net/blog : on interaction architecture

Sven Neumann
2008-10-23 08:59:05 UTC (over 16 years ago)

Minimizing when single image or no image open

Hi,

On Wed, 2008-10-22 at 22:54 +0200, peter sikking wrote:

minimising all image windows, or the no-image-window, should minimise the whole app, meaning the toolbox and inspectors get hidden.

I have attached a patch to bug
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=556896

The patch is simple, but it has one problem:

The user can already hide/unhide the toolbox and docks using the Tab key. The patch hooks into this functionality. This means that if the user hides the toolbox and docks using the Tab key, then iconifies the image window and deiconfies it again, the toolbox and docks will be shown again.

It should be possible to work around this, but it would introduce additional complexity. So I would like to know if this is considered a problem at all.

Sven

Liam R E Quin
2008-10-24 00:24:24 UTC (over 16 years ago)

Minimizing when single image or no image open

On Thu, 2008-10-23 at 08:59 +0200, Sven Neumann wrote:

[...]

if the user hides the
toolbox and docks using the Tab key, then iconifies the image window and deiconfies it again, the toolbox and docks will be shown again.

I'd usually prefer it the other way. i say usually, because in the case that I can't find the toolbox because I think I have iconfied it, forgot I pressed tab (or pressed it by mistake), this way I'll find it again easily.

Liam

(visiting Mandelieu France)

Sven Neumann
2008-10-24 09:32:29 UTC (over 16 years ago)

Minimizing when single image or no image open

Hi,

On Fri, 2008-10-24 at 00:24 +0200, Liam R E Quin wrote:

On Thu, 2008-10-23 at 08:59 +0200, Sven Neumann wrote:

if the user hides the
toolbox and docks using the Tab key, then iconifies the image window and deiconfies it again, the toolbox and docks will be shown again.

I'd usually prefer it the other way. i say usually, because in the case that I can't find the toolbox because I think I have iconfied it, forgot I pressed tab (or pressed it by mistake), this way I'll find it again easily.

The way I have implemented it now (and merged to gimp-2-6) is that GIMP remembers why the dialogs are hidden. So if you hide them using Tab, then they will stay hidden when the display is iconified and deiconifed again. You can try the behavior in trunk. It feels just right to me. Certainly less surprising than the behavior I implemented first.

Sven