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GIMP OS X: n00b questions Kim Cascone 16 Apr 23:53
  GIMP OS X: n00b questions Chris Mohler 17 Apr 00:33
  GIMP OS X: n00b questions Daniel Hornung 17 Apr 18:28
GIMP OS X: n00b questions Kim Cascone 17 Apr 23:31
Kim Cascone
2008-04-16 23:53:32 UTC (almost 17 years ago)

GIMP OS X: n00b questions

I'm using GIMP 2.4.5 Tiger build on OS X http://downloads.sourceforge.net/darwingimp/GIMP-2.4.5-2008-mar30.dmg

I have two seemingly simple problems/issues/disconnects:

========= problem #1:
=========

last night after working late into the night on a CD project in GIMP I inadvertently screwed up how my selection and move tools behave I think I hit the backspace key ('delete' on Apple) in the 'Config Keyboard Shortcuts' but not sure...
late night and very tired

I started using GIMP again after a year or and I had encountered this same issue a while back
but I managed to get GIMP into the mode I prefer working in by tweaking something in the prefs or in a menu somewhere (I can't remember what I did to fix it)

but essentially here is the problem:

I want to be in a mode (like in Photoshop) where I can make and move a selection I'm working in and not the entire layer

for example:

start with a white background (say 640 x 480) then make a transparent layer on top I then drag out a rectangle on 2nd payer with the select rectangle tool then fill it with a color (bucket tool or drag the color to it) then I switch to the 'move' tool
and try to move the colored rectangle with a dotted line around it but what happens is that I end up moving the entire layer or (depending on the Affect settings for Move) I end up moving the rectangular selection (w/ dotted line) leaving behind the colored box

I've messed with the move tool box settings I've tried changing the Affect settings to Move layer, Move selection but it doesn't seem to work
and I'm still not able to get my settings back to where I had them earlier this week
where I could create a layer
make a shape
put something in it
and move it around

it would seem logical that the Move selection would be what I want but

this is a very confusing and non-obvious aspect to GIMP that someone ought to make clear via the UI I feel the expected behavior is that I can move the color rect in the selection by using the move tool

has anyone experienced this? if so, where is the secret tweak that makes it behave the way I want it to?

========= problem #2:
=========

I've downloaded hundreds of very useful brushes and originally had placed them individually root in the brushes folder the loading of all these brushes greatly slowed down the launch process which often times took 3 or more minutes

-- I now know that I should have left them in their original folders and not dragged them directly into my brushes folder --

I then went into my GIMP/brushes folder and made individual folders for each group of brushes
then I opened the Prefs/Folders/Brushes panel and started to create links to each of my brush folders

after I add the 15th folder in my brushes directory/folder I got several behaviors:

- the first attempt the folders in the Brushes panel displayed doubled...
- for example
GIMP/Brushes/stars
GIMP/Brushes/stars
GIMP/Brushes/floral
GIMP/Brushes/floral
GIMP/Brushes/geometric
GIMP/Brushes/geometric
etc.
although there was only one instance of each folder in my /Brushes folder

- second behavior:
I was able to add more than 15 folders to the list i.e. they show up but after I shut the window and re-opened it everything over 15 folders disappeared

- third behavior: I attempted to add more than 15 folders but they wouldn't add to the list
and when I shut the window and re-opened they were not added to the list

strange...

can anyone help me on these two problems I suspect the first one is a n00b issue while the second might be an actual limitation or bug

thanks in advance Kim Cascone

Chris Mohler
2008-04-17 00:33:50 UTC (almost 17 years ago)

GIMP OS X: n00b questions

Sorry - forgot to reply to the list...

To answer question #1 - just after you switch to the move tool, do Select->Float. When you are done do either Layer->Anchor or Layer->New.

Chris

Daniel Hornung
2008-04-17 18:28:10 UTC (almost 17 years ago)

GIMP OS X: n00b questions

On Wednesday 16 April 2008, Kim Cascone wrote:

- the first attempt the folders in the Brushes panel displayed doubled...
- for example
GIMP/Brushes/stars
GIMP/Brushes/stars
GIMP/Brushes/floral
GIMP/Brushes/floral
GIMP/Brushes/geometric
GIMP/Brushes/geometric
etc.

Did this happen after you double clicked onto some folder or shortcut? That's a known bug in gtk, it'll be fixed in the next version.

Kim Cascone
2008-04-17 23:31:46 UTC (almost 17 years ago)

GIMP OS X: n00b questions

Did this happen after you double clicked onto some folder or shortcut? That's
a known bug in gtk, it'll be fixed in the next version.

Daniel thanks for your response :)

here are the steps to reproduce the bug: 1- open GIMP prefs then click on Folders section -- I see the 14 brush folders I've already set up paths to in GIMP/Brushes/ 2- I select a new path with the white document icon 3- a small green sphere on left of text field turns red -- I've noticed that the green sphere doesn't always turn red when I do this step
4 - click on the folder icon on the right 5- a dialog box opens
6- navigate to folder Brush/foo and select it 7- click on OK
8- box says I have to restart GIMP for changes to take effect 9- restart GIMP
10 - open Prefs->Folders->Brushes again 11- the list only contains the 14 folders I had started with and does not include the one I tried to set a path to in step 7

hope this helps