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file extensions and when to use them norman 21 Mar 18:04
  file extensions and when to use them Patrick Shanahan 22 Mar 01:18
   file extensions and when to use them David Gowers 22 Mar 01:55
   file extensions and when to use them David Hodson 22 Mar 05:10
    file extensions and when to use them norman 22 Mar 09:46
norman
2008-03-21 18:04:40 UTC (almost 17 years ago)

file extensions and when to use them

I usually shoot in RAW and convert with UFraw plugged in GIMP. Then I have a choice of extensions to use for saving the file produced. I presume that if I use .xcf there is no compression and if I use .jpg there will be some compression. When working on the file I assume it is best to save as .xcf and not to use .jpg until the picture is finalised. I would like to know how the contents of the .jpg file so formed compare with the contents of a .jpg saved directly on the camera.

The reason I ask is because I would like to use PTLens to remove CA but it seems that the software will only work with .jpg.

Norman

Patrick Shanahan
2008-03-22 01:18:25 UTC (almost 17 years ago)

file extensions and when to use them

* norman [03-21-08 13:06]:

I usually shoot in RAW and convert with UFraw plugged in GIMP. Then I have a choice of extensions to use for saving the file produced. I presume that if I use .xcf there is no compression and if I use .jpg there will be some compression. When working on the file I assume it is best to save as .xcf and not to use .jpg until the picture is finalised. I would like to know how the contents of the .jpg file so formed compare with the contents of a .jpg saved directly on the camera.

The reason I ask is because I would like to use PTLens to remove CA but it seems that the software will only work with .jpg.

*compression* is not the problem as such. "lossey" compression is the problem, you *lose* some of the definition of your object/picture when you *save* it as jpg. jpg is a lossey compression scheme.

If ptlens is your *only* choice, you have no choice except to perform that operation as the last operation. You will still have a minimum of two lossey saves.

David Gowers
2008-03-22 01:55:32 UTC (almost 17 years ago)

file extensions and when to use them

Norman,

On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* norman [03-21-08 13:06]:

I usually shoot in RAW and convert with UFraw plugged in GIMP. Then I

> have a choice of extensions to use for saving the file produced. I > presume that if I use .xcf there is no compression and if I use .jpg > there will be some compression. When working on the file I assume it is > best to save as .xcf and not to use .jpg until the picture is finalised. > I would like to know how the contents of the .jpg file so formed compare > with the contents of a .jpg saved directly on the camera. >
> The reason I ask is because I would like to use PTLens to remove CA but > it seems that the software will only work with .jpg.

*compression* is not the problem as such. "lossey" compression is the problem, you *lose* some of the definition of your object/picture when you *save* it as jpg. jpg is a lossey compression scheme.

If ptlens is your *only* choice, you have no choice except to perform that operation as the last operation. You will still have a minimum of two lossey saves.

What Patrick has said is true. It's also true that you can save your jpeg with maximum quality in GIMP, and hopefully use a setting in PTLens to save the processed jpeg with maximum quality*.. Given an input picture of high resolution, the jpeg artifacts should remain near imperceptible.

* if you can make PTLens use the same quantization tables as the input jpeg, that would give best quality.

Another method that may work to minimize the effect of jpeg lossy compression is to scale the image up (no interpolation) before processing it, and scaling down afterwards.

David Hodson
2008-03-22 05:10:41 UTC (almost 17 years ago)

file extensions and when to use them

Patrick Shanahan wrote:

If ptlens is your *only* choice, you have no choice except to perform that operation as the last operation. You will still have a minimum of two lossey saves.

ptlens is not the only choice. You could use Gimp.

norman
2008-03-22 09:46:56 UTC (almost 17 years ago)

file extensions and when to use them

If ptlens is your *only* choice, you have no choice except to perform that operation as the last operation. You will still have a minimum of two lossey saves.

ptlens is not the only choice. You could use Gimp.

I would cheerfully use GIMP if I could be shown a process as simple and as effective as PTLens seems to be. A number of ways have been described all of which are, to my of thinking, complicated and time consuming. Although my involvement with photography is purely as a hobby I tend not to use a process if it requires a great deal of patience, skill and specialised knowledge.

Norman