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Feathered selections Leon Brooks GIMP 14 Nov 14:16
  Feathered selections Akkana Peck 14 Nov 18:29
   Feathered selections Leon Brooks GIMP 14 Nov 22:20
    Feathered selections Tim Jedlicka 15 Nov 05:22
     Feathered selections Helen 25 Nov 00:07
      Feathered selections Owen 25 Nov 00:37
      Feathered selections Elwin Estle 25 Nov 01:43
       Feathered selections Helen 25 Nov 03:42
        Feathered selections Owen 25 Nov 05:24
         Feathered selections Helen 25 Nov 05:35
Leon Brooks GIMP
2007-11-14 14:16:42 UTC (about 17 years ago)

Feathered selections

I walked a lady through GIMP on Windows 2000 today, & she was delighted with it.

A feature that she particularly liked was being able to select things (wand, oval, block, whatever) then feather the selection so whatever you did had no sharp edges.

She also liked being able to select with the wand, then tidy up using Ctrl & the other selection tools before actually doing anything with the selection.

This visual interaction with the selection tools particularly struck me when she noticed that a rectangular selection grew rounded corners when it was feathered.

So I started wondering: is it feasible to do something like make the selection's borders gently more fuzzy or translucent when a selection is feathered?

That would just about make her day. Her approach to many things is artistic & a little impulsive, so I think that makes her reactions a good benchmark of non-technical users in general.

Cheers; Leon

Akkana Peck
2007-11-14 18:29:00 UTC (about 17 years ago)

Feathered selections

Leon Brooks GIMP writes:

So I started wondering: is it feasible to do something like make the selection's borders gently more fuzzy or translucent when a selection is feathered?

I'm assuming you're talking about the "marching ants" when you say selection borders, and it's an interesting suggestion, though it might take a UI person to decide exactly how they should change to indicate fuzziness.

But there's a solution for your friend in the meantime: the Quickmask. Click on that inconspicuous little square down at the bottom left of the image window, in the corner between the scrollbar and the ruler. That switches to Quickmask mode, in which anything that is *not* selected is red. You can see fuzzy borders really well with the quickmask -- I often use it when I want to check whether I've feathered a selection enough. Click in the same place (now it looks like a red square) to get out of quickmask mode.

While you're in quickmask mode, you can also do useful things like changing the selection by painting with the various paint tools.

Leon Brooks GIMP
2007-11-14 22:20:34 UTC (about 17 years ago)

Feathered selections

On Thursday 15 November 2007 04:29:00 Akkana Peck wrote:

But there's a solution for your friend in the meantime: the Quickmask. Click on that inconspicuous little square down at the bottom left of the image window, in the corner between the scrollbar and the ruler. That switches to Quickmask mode, in which anything that is *not* selected is red. You can see fuzzy borders really well with the quickmask

Thanks, good idea.

I'll give Vickey a few days to play with her existing toys, then drop that on her. She likes painting & doing similar artwork, so I suspect that QM mode will appeal to her instincts.

She "talks" to a fair few people (in person & by email) & her husband Ronn is fairly well known here, too, so Wilbur's fame should get around quite handily. (-:

Cheers; Leon

Tim Jedlicka
2007-11-15 05:22:41 UTC (about 17 years ago)

Feathered selections

On 11/14/07, Leon Brooks GIMP wrote:

then drop that on her. She likes painting & doing similar artwork, so I suspect that QM mode will appeal to her instincts.

In that case you might want to point her towards the attached brush "repository" as well. I reposted the note here because it looks like it only went to the developer list and this looks to be of interest to users as well.
The original is at:
https://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/lists/gimp-developer/2007-September/018665.html

Helen
2007-11-25 00:07:34 UTC (about 17 years ago)

Feathered selections

Links to the brushes are here:

Watercolor Paint:
http://iceytina.deviantart.com/art/GIMP-PaintBrushes-Watercolors-31117244

Can someone explain how to get these brushes? How to install them into Gimp 2.2.10, on SuSE 10, Linux?

Thanks, Helen

Owen
2007-11-25 00:37:08 UTC (about 17 years ago)

Feathered selections

Links to the brushes are here:

Watercolor Paint:
http://iceytina.deviantart.com/art/GIMP-PaintBrushes-Watercolors-31117244

Can someone explain how to get these brushes? How to install them into Gimp 2.2.10, on SuSE 10, Linux?

1. Click on the download item (iceytina_paint_watercolorsGIMP.zip) 2. Move the zip file to your ~/.gimp-2.2/brushes directory 3. Unzip them there

Alternatively to 2 and 3 above, move the zip file to a new directory and unzip it in that directory, then copy or move the gbr files to your brushes directory

Owen

Elwin Estle
2007-11-25 01:43:35 UTC (about 17 years ago)

Feathered selections

I know there is another reply to this...but, since you might not know where your brushes directory is.

You will have a hidden directory in your homve folder for gimp (whatever file manager you are using, Konqueror or Nautilus, should have an option to "show hidden files").

In this hidden folder will be some sub folders. One of them is for brushes.

What I ususally do, so I don't have to keep turning on and off the hidden files, is to make a link to that folder (the brushes folder) and put it in my main home directory. Then the folder can stay hidden, but I will have an easy way to access it. You would just download the brushes and extract them into the link to the folder.

--- Helen wrote:

Links to the brushes are here:

Watercolor Paint:
http://iceytina.deviantart.com/art/GIMP-PaintBrushes-Watercolors-31117244

Can someone explain how to get these brushes? How to install them into Gimp 2.2.10, on SuSE 10, Linux?

Thanks, Helen

Helen
2007-11-25 03:42:43 UTC (about 17 years ago)

Feathered selections

Thanks Elwin and Owen. I'm almost there. I downloaded, and *finally* found the file. It had gone into /tmp.

And then I found the hidden files containing the brushes.

Using Konqueror, I moved the zip file over to the /home/helen/.gimp-2.2/brushes directory.

Then I clicked on the zip:/home/helen/.gimp-2.2/brushes/iceytina_paint_oilpastelsGIMP.zip/ file, and then I got a message saying

The file zip:/home/helen/.gimp-2.2/brushes/iceytina_paint_oilpastelsGIMP.zip/iceytina-oilpastel_coarse01.gbr is a binary, saving it will result in a corrupt file.

Would you give me some advice as to what I should do next?

On Nov 24, 2007 7:43 PM, Elwin Estle wrote:

I know there is another reply to this...but, since you might not know where your brushes directory is.

You will have a hidden directory in your homve folder for gimp (whatever file manager you are using, Konqueror or Nautilus, should have an option to "show hidden files").

In this hidden folder will be some sub folders. One of them is for brushes.

What I ususally do, so I don't have to keep turning on and off the hidden files, is to make a link to that folder (the brushes folder) and put it in my main home directory. Then the folder can stay hidden, but I will have an easy way to access it. You would just download the brushes and extract them into the link to the folder.

--- Helen wrote:

Links to the brushes are here:

Watercolor Paint:
http://iceytina.deviantart.com/art/GIMP-PaintBrushes-Watercolors-31117244

Can someone explain how to get these brushes? How to install them into Gimp 2.2.10, on SuSE 10, Linux?

Thanks, Helen

Owen
2007-11-25 05:24:31 UTC (about 17 years ago)

Feathered selections

See the last point, or

1. Open up a (k)console or terminal 2. At the prompt, change directory to the gimp brush directory # cd .gimp-2.2/brushes
3. Do a listing to make sure you are there # ls
4. Then unzip the file.
# unzip iceytina_paint_oilpastelsGIMP.zip Type unzip ice and it should auto complete for you 5. Do another listing to see what you have

Alternative is to Right click on your file in Konqueror, one of the entries will be to "Extract" or similiar

Owen

Thanks Elwin and Owen. I'm almost there. I downloaded, and *finally* found the file. It had gone into /tmp.

And then I found the hidden files containing the brushes.

Using Konqueror, I moved the zip file over to the /home/helen/.gimp-2.2/brushes directory.

Then I clicked on the zip:/home/helen/.gimp-2.2/brushes/iceytina_paint_oilpastelsGIMP.zip/ file,
and then I got a message saying

The file zip:/home/helen/.gimp-2.2/brushes/iceytina_paint_oilpastelsGIMP.zip/iceytina-oilpastel_coarse01.gbr is a binary, saving it will result in a corrupt file.

Would you give me some advice as to what I should do next?

On Nov 24, 2007 7:43 PM, Elwin Estle wrote:

I know there is another reply to this...but, since you might not know where your brushes
directory is.

You will have a hidden directory in your homve folder for gimp (whatever file manager you
are using, Konqueror or Nautilus, should have an option to "show hidden files").

In this hidden folder will be some sub folders. One of them is for brushes.

What I ususally do, so I don't have to keep turning on and off the hidden files, is to
make a link to that folder (the brushes folder) and put it in my main home directory.
Then the folder can stay hidden, but I will have an easy way to access it. You would
just download the brushes and extract them into the link to the folder.

--- Helen wrote:

Links to the brushes are here:

Watercolor Paint:
http://iceytina.deviantart.com/art/GIMP-PaintBrushes-Watercolors-31117244

Can someone explain how to get these brushes? How to install them

into

Gimp 2.2.10, on SuSE 10, Linux?

Thanks, Helen

Helen
2007-11-25 05:35:24 UTC (about 17 years ago)

Feathered selections

Thanks!!
Wow, this sure is easy when you know how to do it :-) Thanks,
Helen

On Nov 24, 2007 11:24 PM, Owen wrote:

See the last point, or

1. Open up a (k)console or terminal 2. At the prompt, change directory to the gimp brush directory # cd .gimp-2.2/brushes
3. Do a listing to make sure you are there # ls
4. Then unzip the file.
# unzip iceytina_paint_oilpastelsGIMP.zip Type unzip ice and it should auto complete for you 5. Do another listing to see what you have

Alternative is to Right click on your file in Konqueror, one of the entries will be to "Extract" or similiar

Owen

Thanks Elwin and Owen. I'm almost there. I downloaded, and *finally* found the file. It had gone into /tmp.

And then I found the hidden files containing the brushes.

Using Konqueror, I moved the zip file over to the /home/helen/.gimp-2.2/brushes directory.

Then I clicked on the zip:/home/helen/.gimp-2.2/brushes/iceytina_paint_oilpastelsGIMP.zip/ file,
and then I got a message saying

The file zip:/home/helen/.gimp-2.2

/brushes/iceytina_paint_oilpastelsGIMP.zip/iceytina-oilpastel_coarse01.gbr

is a binary, saving it will result in a corrupt file.

Would you give me some advice as to what I should do next?

On Nov 24, 2007 7:43 PM, Elwin Estle wrote:

I know there is another reply to this...but, since you might not know where your brushes
directory is.

You will have a hidden directory in your homve folder for gimp

(whatever

file manager you
are using, Konqueror or Nautilus, should have an option to "show hidden files").

In this hidden folder will be some sub folders. One of them is for brushes.

What I ususally do, so I don't have to keep turning on and off the hidden files, is to
make a link to that folder (the brushes folder) and put it in my main home directory.
Then the folder can stay hidden, but I will have an easy way to access it. You would
just download the brushes and extract them into the link to the folder.

--- Helen wrote:

Links to the brushes are here:

Watercolor Paint:

http://iceytina.deviantart.com/art/GIMP-PaintBrushes-Watercolors-31117244

Can someone explain how to get these brushes? How to install them

into

Gimp 2.2.10, on SuSE 10, Linux?

Thanks, Helen