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A better understanding of Levels and Curves

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A better understanding of Levels and Curves DJ 22 May 06:34
  A better understanding of Levels and Curves Sven Neumann 22 May 08:47
A better understanding of Levels and Curves Felix Karpfen 24 May 23:08
DJ
2007-05-22 06:34:35 UTC (over 17 years ago)

A better understanding of Levels and Curves

Hi,

It is my understanding that the 3 tools for improving color tones of a photo are "Brightness-Contrast", "Levels" and "Curves". "Levels" from what I have read is a happy medium between the other two. I'd like to understand more about how to approach "Levels" and definitely "Curves". Any links or tutorials that you found helpful would be appreciated. I've visited lots of places, but have not found much detail on this topic. Most just say use it, and I'm already doing that :-) The March issue of Linux Magazine had a nice article on GIMP and improving photos. It was the first item I've really seen that showed the details of the tools and explained why.

I understand in "Levels" that the left is black and the right is white, and the middle gamma. A good picture has tones in all 5 zones. That's the extent of my knowledge on levels and I hope to change that :-)

Does "Auto" change all 3 channels, or do I need to select each channel and click "Auto"?

If you don't specify a channel, but use "Value", are you making the same change to all 3 channels?

When using the "eyedroppers", do you select the darkest and lightest in the picture that exist, or that you wished existed?

It would be nice if "Auto" showed the changes it made via the 3 triangle slides or a number in the text boxes. It does change the preview image, but the graph and everything else is the same. I usually click "Auto", "Ok", and get back in to look at the changes made in the graph, and say, wow, that's neat, how did they do that and why can't I do it manually? When I use "Levels" without "Auto", with a specific channel selected, I turn the picture magenta, or green :-) Great for aliens, not so good for humans :-)

Curves. I have spent a lot of time clicking on the line and pulling up and down, on the left and right, not really knowing why I'm doing it.

How do you use "Curves" efficiently?

What reasoning is used to put a dot on the line in a specific position and pull the line up or down?

Any examples or doc that perhaps helped you get started with this tool?

This is what I'm working on:

I have a 90 year old sepia toned picture of a person's profile. I first go Image -> Mode -> Grayscale to get black and white. When I analyze the photo with Image -> Colors -> Levels, and look at the RGB channels, most everything is on the left (dark) inside the first column, with just a little bit in the next column. The chart is largest for Red, then Green is smaller, and Blue is the smallest. The Layers -> Colors -> Histogram confirms (mean): R (34%), G(25%), B(15%). When I Image -> Mode -> Decompose the photo, selecting RGB, the red layer looks the best (lightest, most visible), followed by the green and blue (the darkest). All I did was click on the eye to enable and disable visibility of two, while viewing the third, to see if I learned anything from it.

I've experimented with: Method 1: Layer -> Colors -> Levels, "Auto" Method 2: Duplicate the layer, and change mode to Screen Method 3: Duplicate the layer, Layer -> Colors -> Desaturate, Layer -> Colors -> Invert, and change mode to Overlay

They all seem to turn out similar results. Actually Method 2 and 3 combined looked nice. In general, I seem to be getting too light on one side of the face, and not light enough on the other side.

If I do a final Filters -> Enhance -> Sharpen, do I need to merge the layers? Is the Sharpen applied to a specific layer, the sum, or the selected layer?

Any suggestions or discussion appreciated?

Thank you.

Sven Neumann
2007-05-22 08:47:32 UTC (over 17 years ago)

A better understanding of Levels and Curves

Hi,

On Mon, 2007-05-21 at 23:34 -0500, DJ wrote:

Does "Auto" change all 3 channels, or do I need to select each channel and click "Auto"?

There's a label saying "All channels" next to the button, isn't it?

If you don't specify a channel, but use "Value", are you making the same change to all 3 channels?

You are adjusting all three channels in a way that changes the Value as requested. Unfortunately this may sometimes also introduce small hue and saturation changes.

It would be nice if "Auto" showed the changes it made via the 3 triangle slides or a number in the text boxes. It does change the preview image, but the graph and everything else is the same.

Auto-Levels changes the R, G and B channels and you can read out the numbers there.

Sven

Felix Karpfen
2007-05-24 23:08:16 UTC (over 17 years ago)

A better understanding of Levels and Curves

On Mon, 21 May 2007 23:34:35 -0500, DJ wrote ():

How do you use "Curves" efficiently?

A very full explanation of all the Gimp tools exists in:

Grokking the GIMP by Carey Bunks
©2000 by New Riders Publishing, www.newriders.com ISBN 0-7357-0924-6.

Section 6.2 deals with "Curves"

When the book was published, the author put the full text on his(?) web-site for download.

With luck, the download-option is still available 7 years later.

Felix Karpfen