Robin Laing wrote:

Saw this in Slashdot.

Abiword beats OpenOffice to a Grammar Checker http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/10/15/1312216&from=rss

I haven't wanted a grammar checker since Windows 3.1 days.

Well, you could write a plugin for it, but I do not know under which category of plugin it could be included in gimp... perhaps misc or as an option in the text tool...

Sincerely,

O.

On Monday 17 October 2005 04:40 pm, Olivier Ripoll wrote:

Robin Laing wrote:

Saw this in Slashdot.

Abiword beats OpenOffice to a Grammar Checker http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/10/15/1312216&fr om=rss

I haven't wanted a grammar checker since Windows 3.1 days.

Well, you could write a plugin for it, but I do not know under which category of plugin it could be included in gimp... perhaps misc or as an option in the text tool...

Sincerely,

Well,

there is more than one year that KDE had included spell cheking in everytext entry. I do not see why in the future spell and grammar checking could not go globally into GTK text entries thenselves.

O.

On 10/17/05, Joao S. O. Bueno Calligaris wrote:

On Monday 17 October 2005 04:40 pm, Olivier Ripoll wrote:

Robin Laing wrote:

Saw this in Slashdot.

Abiword beats OpenOffice to a Grammar Checker http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/10/15/1312216&fr om=rss

I haven't wanted a grammar checker since Windows 3.1 days.

Well, you could write a plugin for it, but I do not know under which category of plugin it could be included in gimp... perhaps misc or as an option in the text tool...

Sincerely,

Well,

there is more than one year that KDE had included spell cheking in everytext entry. I do not see why in the future spell and grammar checking could not go globally into GTK text entries thenselves.

Efficiency. As it stands, KDE is very ... consumer-oriented, toward (i.e.) people who use it as a consumer desktop. (I know of a 12 year old and a 9 year old who prefer KDE because when they click to start an application, there's a little bouncing icon next to the mouse cursor.)

I like Gnome/GTK because it has a nice, clean, usable, uncluttered interface.

That said, KDE is good for some things, too (e.g. KPovModeller, Kate, when editing POV-Ray scripts (www.povray.org)).

-- ~Mike
- Just my two cents
- No man is an island, and no man is unable.

michael chang wrote:

On 10/17/05, Joao S. O. Bueno Calligaris wrote:

On Monday 17 October 2005 04:40 pm, Olivier Ripoll wrote:

Robin Laing wrote:

Saw this in Slashdot.

Abiword beats OpenOffice to a Grammar Checker http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/10/15/1312216&fr om=rss

I haven't wanted a grammar checker since Windows 3.1 days.

Well, you could write a plugin for it, but I do not know under which category of plugin it could be included in gimp... perhaps misc or as an option in the text tool...

Sincerely,

Well,

there is more than one year that KDE had included spell cheking in everytext entry. I do not see why in the future spell and grammar checking could not go globally into GTK text entries thenselves.

Efficiency. As it stands, KDE is very ... consumer-oriented, toward (i.e.) people who use it as a consumer desktop. (I know of a 12 year old and a 9 year old who prefer KDE because when they click to start an application, there's a little bouncing icon next to the mouse cursor.)

I like Gnome/GTK because it has a nice, clean, usable, uncluttered interface.

Do we really have to start a Gnome vs. KDE flamewar ? ;) Well, why not, it is always funny :

I mean, what I like in GTK and Gnome is the better colour scheme and icons (Tigert and Jimmac work). And GTK apps usually start faster than KDE's when you do not use any desktop environment (or use use a third party one, e.g. XFCE, E17). Apart from that, I think as for being "usable", KDE is lightyears ahead from Gnome. But I am not a Mac user, so that may explain my feeling. I mean: Every time I try Gnome, I start being upset and insult my computer after a while (10 minutes). I am frustrated. I also sometimes have this feeling at work under Windows (esp. when it comes to using MS Word ;) ). I never get upset when I use XFCE/E16/E17... or KDE :-). But KDE looks ugly. E17 is probably the way to go when it is finished.

I think KDE is not as consumer oriented as Gnome, by the way. Gnome is having much more "communication" that KDE. Actually, since you can configure nearly everything in KDE the way you want, I would say I think KDE is computer-people-oriented, while Gnome is like MacOS, artist/designer/kids-oriented.

That said, KDE is good for some things, too (e.g. KPovModeller, Kate, when editing POV-Ray scripts (www.povray.org)).

Well, Gnome is good for some things too (e.g. Gimp, Inkscape, Bluefish) ;)

Sorry, I could not resist :)

Sincerely,

Olivier.

--
~Mike
- Just my two cents
- No man is an island, and no man is unable.

On 10/17/05, Joao S. O. Bueno Calligaris wrote:

Michael, please!

I never intende rto start a "kde vs gnome"fight in the gimp-user list.

Sorry, I believe my words may have come out the wrong way, and I didn't think before making the post. Both are excellent. Again, apologies.

One asked for a feature - I simply showed where a similar feature is implemented, and suggested a way to implement it without clutter the GIMP with non-image related code.

--
~Mike
- Just my two cents
- No man is an island, and no man is unable.

michael chang wrote:

On 10/17/05, Joao S. O. Bueno Calligaris wrote:

Michael, please!

I never intende rto start a "kde vs gnome"fight in the gimp-user list.

Sorry, I believe my words may have come out the wrong way, and I didn't think before making the post. Both are excellent. Again, apologies.

One asked for a feature - I simply showed where a similar feature is implemented, and suggested a way to implement it without clutter the GIMP with non-image related code.

Michael, Joao

I haven't seen any fight. I have never read your emails as a KDE vs Gnome fight. And mine should not be read as such either :)

Regards,

Olivier

Guess What?

Apple just release there photo editing software called, Aperture. ( works in real time )
and works with RAW images...

http://www.apple.com/aperture/specs.html

Just when you thought it was safe to go in... Come on GEGL

Richard

LOL
Recommended System

* Dual 2GHz Power Mac G5 or faster * 2GB of RAM
* One of the following graphics cards: o ATI Radeon X800 XT Mac Edition o ATI Radeon 9800 XT or 9800 Pro o NVIDIA GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL or 6800 GT DDL o NVIDIA GeForce 6600 LE or 6600 o NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GT
o NVIDIA Quadro FX 4500
* 5GB of disk space for application, templates, and tutorial * DVD drive for installation

On 10/20/05, Jad Madi wrote:

LOL
Recommended System

* Dual 2GHz Power Mac G5 or faster * 2GB of RAM
* One of the following graphics cards: o ATI Radeon X800 XT Mac Edition o ATI Radeon 9800 XT or 9800 Pro o NVIDIA GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL or 6800 GT DDL o NVIDIA GeForce 6600 LE or 6600 o NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GT
o NVIDIA Quadro FX 4500
* 5GB of disk space for application, templates, and tutorial * DVD drive for installation

:-)

I wonder why the need for a graphics card with high processing power and 3D pipeline for photo editing...

-- Bruno de Oliveira Schneider
http://www.dcc.ufla.br/~bruno/

Hi,
boschneider@gmail.com (2005-10-20 at 1004.37 -0200):

I wonder why the need for a graphics card with high processing power and 3D pipeline for photo editing...

Probably cos it uses it has image processor (float, quick retrieve from the card, shaders, etc required), via their CoreImage system. Or was it a rethoric question?

If you look at Siggraph and other tech meetings papers, or just search for "general purpose gpu" you will find it is a hot topic, covering 2d image processing, raytracing, dynamics simulations, image recognition and othes. Sadly, it requires modern cards and drivers with all the features. While the first issue is about money, the second is a bit harder (or impossible) if you want to keep on using a full free software solution (for the "what if gimp ...").

You can say they want to move more hardware... which no doubt is true, it is part of their business. But OTOH no less true that the silicon can do the work so they are using it instead of limiting it to purely 3d applications.

GSR

Von: Bruno de Oliveira Schneider

I wonder why the need for a graphics card with high processing power and 3D pipeline for photo editing...

This application is obviously the answer to the question

"How do we get our customers to buy the last PPC Macs and don't have them wait for the Intel ones?"

SCNR, Michael

And it's working dammit! If I had a spare $4200 CDN and could justify not putting it on my mortgage I'd have a new apple system soon (specced out an imac + aperture + (of course) a new ipod last night).

The videos make this thing look incrediably sexy and attractive to an amateur photog like myself.

Curse you Steve Jobs!!!!!!!

On 10/20/05, Michael Schumacher wrote:

Von: Bruno de Oliveira Schneider

I wonder why the need for a graphics card with high processing power and 3D pipeline for photo editing...

This application is obviously the answer to the question

"How do we get our customers to buy the last PPC Macs and don't have them wait for the Intel ones?"

SCNR, Michael

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Considering what they're shipping with their latest generation iMacs, i'm not surprised -- I mean with OS X and the built in cameras on the iMacs, they've now got videoconferencing on H.264 on their OS by default... I believe also that OS X was also one to move all the GUI processing to the graphics card (similar to how Windows Vista plans to do the same when/if it comes out, either now, or in it's sucessor).

Do note that current Intel PCs are shipping with single-core 2GHz processors (low end), single-core 3GHz processors (mid-end) or dual-core 2.4 GHz processors (high-end).

I could be totally wrong, though.

That all said, IIRC, movie editing is a lot worse, usually - especially if you're going for something with a nice-looking GUI. You probably could get by with a bit less, but it'd be unstable and/or slow.

[I hope there's a minimum system listing too. ;]

On 10/19/05, Jad Madi wrote:

LOL
Recommended System

* Dual 2GHz Power Mac G5 or faster * 2GB of RAM
* One of the following graphics cards: o ATI Radeon X800 XT Mac Edition o ATI Radeon 9800 XT or 9800 Pro o NVIDIA GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL or 6800 GT DDL o NVIDIA GeForce 6600 LE or 6600 o NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GT
o NVIDIA Quadro FX 4500
* 5GB of disk space for application, templates, and tutorial * DVD drive for installation

--
~Mike
- Just my two cents
- No man is an island, and no man is unable.