Hi folks,

I'm sorry to barge in here, but I don't really know where else to turn.

I'm on RH9. I finally decided to upgrade the GIMP from 1.3.x to 2.2.6 (more about that in a minute).

The problem I have right now is that it will not open or write tiff's. Now I suspect it is b/c of how I installed it.

I installed into a custom location (with the --prefix option when I ran configure). During the upgrade, the first thing I discovered was that I needed to upgrade GTK+ and GLib. A while ago I tried upgrading those packages and realized that was a terrible idea. So I found http://www.cryptnet.net/fdp/gtk/local_install.html which told me how to install them in a different directory and use them.

So that's what I did, I installed GTK+ 2.6.7 and glib 2.6.4 into my $HOME/usr directory. I ran into a problem with them complaining about some things and I ended up installing the following into the custom directory as well:
atk 1.9.0
fontconfig 2.2.96
freetype 2.1.9
glib 2.6.4
gtk+ 2.6.7
pango 1.8.1
pkgconfig 0.17.1
libtiff 3.7.2

During the install I had to set a number of environmental vars:

SED=sed LDFLAGS=-L/home/strycat/usr/lib
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/strycat/usr/lib PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/home/strycat/bin:/home/strycat/usr/bin/ LD_RUN_PATH=/home/strycat/usr/lib
PKG_CONFIG_LIBDIR=/home/strycat/usr/lib/pkgconfig/:/home/strycat/usr/lib/ PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/home/strycat/usr/:/home/strycat/usr/lib/pkgconfig/:/home/strycat/usr/lib/ LIBTIFF=/home/strycat/usr/lib -ltiff FREETYPE_CONFIG='/home/strycat/usr/bin/freetype-config'

Now once I did all of that that I compiled the gimp. It complained about not having gimp-print so I used the --disable-print option when I ran configure. It complied and installed fin into $HOME/usr

However it doesn't seem to know anything about tiff files now. I'm pretty sure I've done something wrong while compiling it. Can anyone help? I've been struggling with this all weekend.

Thanks,

Tom

Thanks for the reply. I didn't install the rpms, I complied everything from source. It was the only way I knew I could force them into my custom directory. I downloaded libtiff from http://www.libtiff.org/

On 4/25/05, Carol Spears wrote:

On Mon, Apr 25, 2005 at 02:29:01PM -0400, Tom Cat wrote:

However it doesn't seem to know anything about tiff files now. I'm pretty sure I've done something wrong while compiling it. Can anyone help? I've been struggling with this all weekend.

do you have libtiff-dev or whatever red hat calls these things? if you are building gimp, you need the header files which distributions deliver separately.

carol

I'm confused what do you mean by item #1?

As for #2 & #3, I have a very stable system. That is part of the reason, I want to install the gimp in $HOME/usr not /usr or /usr/local. It doesn't seem know anything about tiffs. I've also tried the libtiff at ftp://ftp.gimp.org/pub/gimp/libs/ I had to recompile gtk+ and set CFLAGS='-I/home/strycat/usr/include' to get that to compile. However gimp does not give any errors but it just seems to ignore libtiff. Is there some option I can force it to look for libtiff?

Thanks,

-Tom

On 4/25/05, Carol Spears wrote:

On Mon, Apr 25, 2005 at 03:32:40PM -0400, Tom Cat wrote:

Thanks for the reply. I didn't install the rpms, I complied everything from source. It was the only way I knew I could force them into my custom directory. I downloaded libtiff from http://www.libtiff.org/

a few things here, and not much actual help, so if you want to quit reading it, this is the warning.

1) google is trying to change the way the gimp lists respond to mail, i think.

2) you are using an old linux distribution. i am sorry about that. it is the ultimate in cheap and lazy and you will still be able to get gimp to work.

3) i was successful in getting gimp to build in /usr/ and i was successful in getting gimp to build in /usr/local/. the reason my experiences are limited to this is that someone who is competent with computers is running my system.

good luck with your build,

carol

I think this has hit on the problem.... libtiff is showing up in /usr/lib instead of $HOME/usr/lib It is also the ancient version instead of the new version.

Now how the heck to I get it to look in the right place? Another env variable? Another option in the configure script?

Thanks.

On 4/26/05, Owen wrote:

On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 14:29:01 -0400 Tom Cat wrote:

During the install I had to set a number of environmental vars:

SED=sed LDFLAGS=-L/home/strycat/usr/lib
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/strycat/usr/lib PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/home/strycat/bin:/home/strycat/usr/bin/ LD_RUN_PATH=/home/strycat/usr/lib
PKG_CONFIG_LIBDIR=/home/strycat/usr/lib/pkgconfig/:/home/strycat/usr/lib/ PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/home/strycat/usr/:/home/strycat/usr/lib/pkgconfig/:/home/strycat/usr/lib/ LIBTIFF=/home/strycat/usr/lib -ltiff FREETYPE_CONFIG='/home/strycat/usr/bin/freetype-config'

What happens if as root you run 'ldconfig -v'?

or better still 'ldconfig -v|grep tiff'

Does libtiff show up where expected?

Owen

Thanks to everyone who responded (both on and off the list).

As I suspected I needed to recompile the gimp. However I also needed to recompile glib, gtk, pango, atk, fontconfig, freetype, and libtiff. The thread at http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/member.php?action=mailform&userid=179995 was very helpful and amit rao was extremely nice in providing personal help.

PKG_CONFIG_PATH=$PKG_CONFIG_PATH:/usr/local/lib/pkgconfig:/home/strycat/usr/lib/pkgconfig LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib:/home/strycat/usr/lib PATH=$PATH:/home/strycat/usr/bin

All of the aforementioned packages needed to have the --prefix=/home/strycat/usr added to the ./configure line.

I still have a few minor problems (couldn't find SGV or libgtkhtml) but the main problem of no tiff support has been resolved.

After all of this, the GIMP 2.2 had better be the best program in the whole world.

Thanks again to everyone who helped.

-Tom

On 4/26/05, Tom Cat wrote:

I think this has hit on the problem.... libtiff is showing up in /usr/lib instead of $HOME/usr/lib It is also the ancient version instead of the new version.

Now how the heck to I get it to look in the right place? Another env variable? Another option in the configure script?

Thanks.

On 4/26/05, Owen wrote:

On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 14:29:01 -0400 Tom Cat wrote:

During the install I had to set a number of environmental vars:

SED=sed LDFLAGS=-L/home/strycat/usr/lib
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/strycat/usr/lib PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/home/strycat/bin:/home/strycat/usr/bin/ LD_RUN_PATH=/home/strycat/usr/lib
PKG_CONFIG_LIBDIR=/home/strycat/usr/lib/pkgconfig/:/home/strycat/usr/lib/ PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/home/strycat/usr/:/home/strycat/usr/lib/pkgconfig/:/home/strycat/usr/lib/ LIBTIFF=/home/strycat/usr/lib -ltiff FREETYPE_CONFIG='/home/strycat/usr/bin/freetype-config'

What happens if as root you run 'ldconfig -v'?

or better still 'ldconfig -v|grep tiff'

Does libtiff show up where expected?

Owen