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gimp-user-list Digest, Vol 88, Issue 9

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  gimp-user-list Digest, Vol 88, Issue 9 Richard via gimp-user-list 23 Jan 01:09
Richard via gimp-user-list
2019-01-23 01:09:12 UTC (almost 6 years ago)

gimp-user-list Digest, Vol 88, Issue 9

Okay, another idea: On the Scale tool, check its toolbox options, specifically the "Interpolation" setting. (All transform-based tools have this setting, but it's especially important for the Scale tool.) GIMP 2.10 defaults to "Cubic" (I think GIMP 2.8 used "Linear"?), but try the other settings and compare which result works best here.

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From: Ben Thurston 
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2019 11:31 PM
To: Richard; gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: gimp-user-list Digest, Vol 88, Issue 9

   Ok I tried to quantify somehow what I thought I was seeing just to make sure it wasn't just my eyes or something. My experiment was to copy and paste the sample directly to compare and then the preview and final result when scaling in both the new version and how it was in 2.8. I just chose a section where the anti-aliasing effect wouldn't dominate which I thought might be on the long horizontal division symbol about halfway down.
   And it does seem to me the final scale in the new version is considerably greyed out. The darkest blue color in the region goes from (0,0,255) to (140,140,255) when in 2.8 it only greyed out slightly to (15,15,255). The previewing is much better in the new version that you can see very well without the grid on it but it loses a lot of contrast with the white backgournd when it goes to the final result.
   Thanks for taking the time to respond to me, maybe there is a setting somewhere that I can have it use the old algorithm for scaling?

On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 12:34 AM Richard > wrote:
Hmm ... I don't even see any problems?  The end result (desktop2.png) looks perfectly fine to me.

Keep in mind, when you use *any* transform tool, the on-canvas preview is just a rough calculation executed as quickly as possible (for performance reasons).  The final transform, on the other hand, is calculated as accurately/precisely as possible (and takes considerably longer).  This is why there is an apparent quality difference between the two screenshots, but the difference is only in the rendering, and desktop2.png IS the correct result.

...Or do you also have a screenshot of the image before applying the Scale tool at all?  It's harder to evaluate if the transform is correct without a proper 'before' version to compare with.


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From: Ben Thurston >
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2019 8:46 PM
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Subject: Re: gimp-user-list Digest, Vol 88, Issue 9

Sorry If I'm not replying to this correctly but here are two screenshots. I hadn't done anything with the layers, this is just pasting some text in from the clipboard and scaling it, it looks great in the preview (desktop1.png) but then when I click the scale button it becomes as in (desktop2.png),

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I've faced the same issue when assembling scanned images from a standard (A4) scanner -- i.e. my source is, say, 11x14 so I scan it in multiple sections.  I actually find it easier not using GIMP at all here and using a vector program instead (e.g. Inkscape).  Move the images roughly together, zoom in and align one feature between two images, then set it as the center of rotation, move to a second (quite distant) feature and align that.  (I'm omitting a few steps regarding alpha blending but you get the general idea.)

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Subject: [Gimp-user] IImprovements to unified transform

>I guess likewise also need a way of rotating without having to drag
>outside the edge. That would need a rotator modifier key or tool.

The crtitical issue is, when overlaying one aerial photo over another, you
aren't necessarily aligning the edges. Having sizing/skewing handles on the
edges or corners works fine if the edges or corners is what you want to align.
but in this instance, what you are looking to align is features that can be
anywhere within the image (aligning what is in the top layer with what is in the
layer underneath).

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