GIMP needs to add a feature which allows an area to be selected and copied into a new layer, and then that area is replicated onto other layers (or multiple times into another single layer), such that when changes are made to the originating layer, those changes are reflected everywhere.

In Blender, this is known as an array modifier: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mNUHOkKQcY

GIMP needs a feature like this which can exist in modifier form, or be "baked" into the image with the modifier being applied.

Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin

I'll have to look at it. It doesn't quite look like what I have in mind.

I'm thinking there needs to be a new layer type created, which isn't just a regular layer, but is a modifier layer. That modifier layer can receive parameters where things from other layers can be linked into it, and then acted upon by operations, such as you link a rectangle from layer A, rotate it 90 degrees, decrease its scale by 30%, and move it to these X,Y coordinates. And then any time content from that rectangle in layer A changes, those changes are reflected in the modifier layer through the operations.

In that way, modifier layers perform operations to derive content for display on their layer, or possibly to publish the content they modify onto another layer.

It basically creates a worker layer that performs operations on content without actually baking them into the bits, but rather generating them from source bits through operations, and then using the generated portion, but in a way that by altering the operation stack, or changing the original source bit data, the changes push through to everywhere they are referenced.

A whole set of features could be added to the modifier layer, not the least of which is the array modifier I mention. But every operation we have today could be added, and they could be performed in a stack upon that original content source from another layer, or from a selected portion from another layer.

Best regards,
Rick C. Hodgin

On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 4:55 AM, Ofnuts wrote:

On 30/12/16 02:02, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:

GIMP needs to add a feature which allows an area to be selected and copied into a new layer, and then that area is replicated onto other layers (or multiple times into another single layer), such that when changes are made to the originating layer, those changes are reflected everywhere.

In Blender, this is known as an array modifier: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mNUHOkKQcY

GIMP needs a feature like this which can exist in modifier form, or be "baked" into the image with the modifier being applied.

Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin

Maybe what you need is interleave-layers: http://gimp-tools.sourceforge. net/animationtools.shtml

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If anyone's willing to break away from GIMP and their GNU-based roots, and spawn off a fork of GIMP to a new named tool (Impro might be nice "Image Professoinal"), then I'll be more than happy to contribute to that product.

Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin

On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 8:38 AM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:

I'll have to look at it. It doesn't quite look like what I have in mind.

I'm thinking there needs to be a new layer type created, which isn't just a regular layer, but is a modifier layer. That modifier layer can receive parameters where things from other layers can be linked into it, and then acted upon by operations, such as you link a rectangle from layer A, rotate it 90 degrees, decrease its scale by 30%, and move it to these X,Y coordinates. And then any time content from that rectangle in layer A changes, those changes are reflected in the modifier layer through the operations.

In that way, modifier layers perform operations to derive content for display on their layer, or possibly to publish the content they modify onto another layer.

It basically creates a worker layer that performs operations on content without actually baking them into the bits, but rather generating them from source bits through operations, and then using the generated portion, but in a way that by altering the operation stack, or changing the original source bit data, the changes push through to everywhere they are referenced.

A whole set of features could be added to the modifier layer, not the least of which is the array modifier I mention. But every operation we have today could be added, and they could be performed in a stack upon that original content source from another layer, or from a selected portion from another layer.

Best regards,
Rick C. Hodgin

On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 4:55 AM, Ofnuts wrote:

On 30/12/16 02:02, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:

GIMP needs to add a feature which allows an area to be selected and copied
into a new layer, and then that area is replicated onto other layers (or multiple times into another single layer), such that when changes are made
to the originating layer, those changes are reflected everywhere.

In Blender, this is known as an array modifier: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mNUHOkKQcY

GIMP needs a feature like this which can exist in modifier form, or be "baked" into the image with the modifier being applied.

Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin

Maybe what you need is interleave-layers: http://gimp-tools.sourceforge. net/animationtools.shtml

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Because GNU is associated with Richard Stallman and his unnatural views (believes pedophilia and necrophilia should be legal among other htings).

Also, the name "GIMP" is not very professional as it's associated with the slang use of the word. It's along the same lines as "GIT," named that way on purpose by Linus.

We just need to break away from GNU and create works which make a clean break from Stallman and those in the GNU camp, and proceed forward in a more positive way.

Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin

On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 9:06 AM, Jernej Simončič < jernej|s-ng@eternallybored.org> wrote:

On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 08:46:07 -0500, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:

If anyone's willing to break away from GIMP and their GNU-based roots,

and

spawn off a fork of GIMP to a new named tool (Impro might be nice "Image Professoinal"), then I'll be more than happy to contribute to that

product.

Why break away?

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My goals are to change things around so they are focused upon positive things. I am doing this with LibSF and the tools I'm creating, but in general I want to encourage other people to do this as well with their projects.

GIT is a bad name. It's insulting, hurtful, etc. It has no place being the name of such a powerful tool.

GIMP is a non-professional name. I think Image Professional would be better. Or something that has a positive upbeat tone.

I don't expect people to change. But it would be great. It would allow me to work on the project because it disassociates itself with Stallman.

Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin

On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 9:44 AM, Ofnuts wrote:

On 30/12/16 15:15, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:

Also, the name "GIMP" is not very professional as it's associated with the slang use of the word. It's along the same lines as "GIT," named that way on purpose by Linus.

The irony is that most people whose mother's tongue isn't English learn about the other meaning of "gimp" because people complain about Gimp's name.

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It comes back to something taught in the Bible, which I've observed is correct in life:

http://biblehub.com/kjv/proverbs/29-12.htm "If a ruler hearken to lies, all his servants are wicked."

Stallman is at the head of GNU and the FSF. Those who help build up his products, they are acquiescing to his views on things because you cannot divide a man in two. It's like a sermon I heard one time: "How many drops of gasoline would it take to ruin a 32 oz. ice cold soft drink?" Even if 99.99% of the soft drink were pure, that last little bit is what poisons all of it.

The same is true with people. And Stallman's views extend to bestiality, child pornography, and other such things. He holds these views in his heart, and they affect all aspects of his life.

GNU was a good idea, but it's run by someone who is not sane. The idea can be salvaged as it is more of a general fundamental concept, but it must sever all ties with GNU and Stallman in so doing.

That's what I'm doing with LibSF, created as an alternative to FSF, and my Village Freedom Project, created as an alternative to GNU.

Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin

On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 10:08 AM, Simon Budig wrote:

Rick C. Hodgin (rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com) wrote:

GIMP is a non-professional name. I think Image Professional would be better. Or something that has a positive upbeat tone.

I don't expect people to change. But it would be great. It would allow

me

to work on the project because it disassociates itself with Stallman.

It is up to you to dislike Stallman. He is a controversial figure and I am by no means going to defend him.

However, GNU is a very important contribution to the world of computers, and I am not willing to sacrifice it, because stallman allegedly is wrong on other stuff.

If you think that "Image Professional" is more prone for success than Gimp then by all means, go ahead, fork the code and try to convince people to work for your vision. But please do not abuse the GIMP-ressources like this mailinglist to fight your personal vendetta against GNU/Stallman and the GIMP brand.

Thank you. Simon
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