On 13/10/16 00:14, FierySwordswoman wrote:

I've been learning Python as a hobby for a while and can now write my own user interfaces in TkInter or the 3rd party Kivy.

I'm trying to launch my own UI that can run Procedural Database plugins and whatnot, but I can't figure out how to create a GIMP python plugin without using the "Register(...)" command and it's built-in widgets. Any help on how to get started with this is appreciated.

You have to use register(), but you can have an empty parameter list. Then your plugin is called directly without the Gimp-built dialog.

What, you mean with no "PF-XXX" parameters? Yeah, I got that much as I've made scripts with both no UI and the built-in UI before. I'm rather certain it still wants you to use their UI, though.

Even if that's all it took, there's still the issue of gimp using a watered down Python 2.7.5, which I'm not sure how to add normal modules to. I assume Kivy's pretty much out of the question, but TkInter's normally built in to python, except with gimp a number of base modules, including TkInter, aren't present

.anymore.

As you say TkInter isn't in the GIMP supplied Python (which is a pity as it uses native file browsers instead of the GTK abomination), but you can use PyGTK, which you should be able to understand quite readily as you have TkInter experience.

Here's a relatively simple PyGTK GIMP plug-in I wrote some time ago: https://bitbucket.org/paynekj/paynekj-gimp-scripts/src/2e8e87faf5eaaf6036e0d8b68ff9f6f37a3f0421/plug-ins/pygtk_add_multiple_guides.py?at=default

Kevin

On 13/10/16 20:13, FierySwordswoman wrote:

You have to use register(), but you can have an empty parameter list. Then your plugin is called directly without the Gimp-built dialog.

What, you mean with no "PF-XXX" parameters? Yeah, I got that much as I've made scripts with both no UI and the built-in UI before. I'm rather certain it still wants you to use their UI, though.

Something like this:

register( 'new-image',
'Creates a new image','Creates a new image', 'Myself','Myself',
'2012',
'Create new image',
'',[],[],
newImage,
menu='/File/Create/'
)

This script will run without showing up a dialog, and will even run if no images are open in Gimp.

Even if that's all it took, there's still the issue of gimp using a watered down Python 2.7.5, which I'm not sure how to add normal modules to.

Pip could work...

I assume Kivy's
pretty much out of the question, but TkInter's normally built in to python, except with gimp a number of base modules, including TkInter, aren't present anymore.

As Kevin says, PyGTK is a good option.

I already have python 3.4 and 2.7 installations on my pc, but it's unlikely they can be made relevant here.

Don' t speak to fast, and check the /lib/gimp/2.0/interpreters/pygimp.interp file in the Gimp install tree. You can very likely switch to your own 2.7.x. Of course, you'll end up writing scripts that only you can use :)

On 14/10/16 00:52, FierySwordswoman wrote:

Something like this:

register( 'new-image',
'Creates a new image','Creates a new image', 'Myself','Myself',
'2012',
'Create new image',
'',[],[],
newImage,
menu='/File/Create/'
)
This script will run without showing up a dialog, and will even run if no images are open in Gimp.

Yeah.

Pip could work...

No it won't. It's not included in Python 2.7.5, and I can't install it into GIMP's python because it's missing too much of the standard library.

Pip is only making things easy. You can always manually add stuff.

How can words on a screen be spoken too fast? Did you read them too fast? -Anyway, no, I can't switch over to my own 2.7.X as the file can't be modified.

It is burnt in the hard disk? All files can be changed. I remember doing this a long while ago when I was still using Windows.

The proper way to do that would be to replace GIMP's python.exe and pythonw.exe with links to the desired ones.
Even if it's possible, I'm pretty sure it'd lose the all-important gimpfu module.

No it wouldn't but I don"t remember if I had to do something for this.

This said AFAIK the Gimp python includes modules such as xml.eTree, so I wonder what modules you consider missing from the standard Python 2.7 install (as listed here: https://docs.python.org/2/py-modindex.html)