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album cover rosea.grammostola 19 Oct 11:45
  Fwd: album cover ugajin@talktalk.net 19 Oct 13:15
  album cover Rolf Steinort 19 Oct 13:24
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rosea.grammostola
2013-10-19 11:45:54 UTC (about 11 years ago)

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Hi,

I want to make an albumcover, the file is 3008x2000. What is the best way to get it in the right dimensions for a CD wallet cover? Do I first edit everything, adding title etc. and then scale and crop it? Or crop and scale it first?

If you look at the picture in the background you see light coming through the back wall, it might be nicer if at least the large light bulbs will be removed and covered by color, any recommendations how to do that?

Here are the files:
http://ubuntuone.com/2dvEtfLvTurvZjnJAxYpPc (jpg) http://ubuntuone.com/4YyrnEztZI1b4sgmadLDEn (xcf)

wallet template: http://www.wizbit.net/12cm_cd-dvd_packaging_options_printed_card_wallets.htm

Thanks in advance, \r

ugajin@talktalk.net
2013-10-19 13:15:38 UTC (about 11 years ago)

Fwd: album cover

@ 300 ppi the image is not big enough to fill the template

-A

-----Original Message----- From: rosea.grammostola
To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Sent: Sat, 19 Oct 2013 12:46
Subject: [Gimp-user] album cover

Hi,
I want to make an albumcover, the file is 3008x2000. What is the best way to get it in the right dimensions for a CD wallet cover? Do I first edit everything, adding title etc. and then scale and crop it? Or crop and scale it first?
If you look at the picture in the background you see light coming through the back wall, it might be nicer if at least the large light bulbs will be removed and covered by color, any recommendations how to do that?
Here are the files:
http://ubuntuone.com/2dvEtfLvTurvZjnJAxYpPc (jpg) http://ubuntuone.com/4YyrnEztZI1b4sgmadLDEn (xcf)
wallet template: http://www.wizbit.net/12cm_cd-dvd_packaging_options_printed_card_wallets.htm
Thanks in advance,
\r
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Rolf Steinort
2013-10-19 13:24:04 UTC (about 11 years ago)

album cover

Hi,

I'll give it a try if you allow me to show your image in my video at http://meetthegimp.org.

Rolf

On 19.10.2013 13:45, rosea.grammostola wrote:

Hi,

I want to make an albumcover, the file is 3008x2000. What is the best way to get it in the right dimensions for a CD wallet cover? Do I first edit everything, adding title etc. and then scale and crop it? Or crop and scale it first?

If you look at the picture in the background you see light coming through the back wall, it might be nicer if at least the large light bulbs will be removed and covered by color, any recommendations how to do that?

Here are the files:
http://ubuntuone.com/2dvEtfLvTurvZjnJAxYpPc (jpg) http://ubuntuone.com/4YyrnEztZI1b4sgmadLDEn (xcf)

wallet template: http://www.wizbit.net/12cm_cd-dvd_packaging_options_printed_card_wallets.htm

Thanks in advance, \r
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rosea.grammostola
2013-10-19 13:41:57 UTC (about 11 years ago)

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I would prefer to get some tips to do it myself. I tried to rm a bit of the light on the back wall and cropped the image so that it should be possible to scale it to the right dimensions.

If I want to edit the text after scaling, the text itself seems not to be scaled. Does this mean you have to do all the edits before scaling?

http://ubuntuone.com/6y0Uoo2uUBEVIrYrWAKBX3

\r

On 10/19/2013 01:45 PM, rosea.grammostola wrote:

Hi,

I want to make an albumcover, the file is 3008x2000. What is the best way to get it in the right dimensions for a CD wallet cover? Do I first edit everything, adding title etc. and then scale and crop it? Or crop and scale it first?

If you look at the picture in the background you see light coming through the back wall, it might be nicer if at least the large light bulbs will be removed and covered by color, any recommendations how to do that?

Here are the files:
http://ubuntuone.com/2dvEtfLvTurvZjnJAxYpPc (jpg) http://ubuntuone.com/4YyrnEztZI1b4sgmadLDEn (xcf)

wallet template: http://www.wizbit.net/12cm_cd-dvd_packaging_options_printed_card_wallets.htm

Thanks in advance, \r

rosea.grammostola
2013-10-19 14:06:09 UTC (about 11 years ago)

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The text seems to get unreadable after scaling, that seems to be the biggest problem for me atm.

On 10/19/2013 03:41 PM, rosea.grammostola wrote:

I would prefer to get some tips to do it myself. I tried to rm a bit of the light on the back wall and cropped the image so that it should be possible to scale it to the right dimensions.

If I want to edit the text after scaling, the text itself seems not to be scaled. Does this mean you have to do all the edits before scaling?

http://ubuntuone.com/6y0Uoo2uUBEVIrYrWAKBX3

\r

On 10/19/2013 01:45 PM, rosea.grammostola wrote:

Hi,

I want to make an albumcover, the file is 3008x2000. What is the best way to get it in the right dimensions for a CD wallet cover? Do I first edit everything, adding title etc. and then scale and crop it? Or crop and scale it first?

If you look at the picture in the background you see light coming through the back wall, it might be nicer if at least the large light bulbs will be removed and covered by color, any recommendations how to do that?

Here are the files: http://ubuntuone.com/2dvEtfLvTurvZjnJAxYpPc (jpg) http://ubuntuone.com/4YyrnEztZI1b4sgmadLDEn (xcf)

wallet template: http://www.wizbit.net/12cm_cd-dvd_packaging_options_printed_card_wallets.htm

Thanks in advance, \r

rosea.grammostola
2013-10-19 16:03:09 UTC (about 11 years ago)

album cover

On 10/19/2013 05:44 PM, Rolf Steinort wrote:

Your image is too small for the template, if you scale it later it will get all mushy.

I'm really confused here. I scaled the photo with Gimp to the width of 254 mm as is mentioned in the template, but the endresult seems to be smaller. The output is a width of 254 mm, but 720 px. If you put 720px in a converter you get 190mm.

Burnie West
2013-10-19 16:49:07 UTC (about 11 years ago)

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On 10/19/2013 09:03 AM, rosea.grammostola wrote:

If you put 720px in a converter you get 190mm.

I think you may be confusing print size and image resolution concepts...

If you meant 720 pixels per inch, your image would reduce by a factor of 10.

Perhaps you want 600 pixels per inch?

In any case adjusting PRINT SIZE and NOT scaling keeps the image crispness as it is.

rosea.grammostola
2013-10-19 19:18:47 UTC (about 11 years ago)

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I would do this:

- download the png template and load it into GIMP as the top layer for the whole project.
- put the image below that on a new layer. - scale the layer to fill the frame for printing - sharpen if necessary
- clone out the highlights
- add the text
- make the top layer invisible

Thanks. Does this look better?
http://ubuntuone.com/1DA3FdMoIFgqlHNitOWvhb (xcf)

\r

rosea.grammostola
2013-10-20 08:44:44 UTC (about 11 years ago)

album cover

On 10/19/2013 09:34 PM, Rolf Steinort wrote:

I would do this:

- download the png template and load it into GIMP as the top layer for the whole project.
- put the image below that on a new layer. - scale the layer to fill the frame for printing - sharpen if necessary
- clone out the highlights
- add the text
- make the top layer invisible

What do you mean by sharpen and clone out the highlights exactly?

Regards. \r

rich2005
2013-10-20 10:24:05 UTC (about 11 years ago)

album cover

Hi,

I want to make an albumcover, the file is 3008x2000.

Here are the files:
http://ubuntuone.com/2dvEtfLvTurvZjnJAxYpPc (jpg)

wallet template: http://www.wizbit.net/12cm_cd-dvd_packaging_options_printed_card_wallets.htm

Do not want to throw a spanner in the works, but are you planning on using that wizbit to print the covers? If so, read the small print.
quote
Please leave the colour schemes as CMYK and the resolution as 300dpi. unquote
The 300 dpi is no problem. (great; they quote the size in mm then use dpi) you need an image 3000x1464. Note there is a small 'bleed' margin in those sizes.

You will be comming back asking how to get CMYK, Gimp is a RGB editor and the separate+ plugin is no substitute for starting off an image in CMYK mode.

Even if you do not use wizbit most commercial printers have similar requirements.

rosea.grammostola
2013-10-20 10:32:33 UTC (about 11 years ago)

album cover

On 10/20/2013 12:24 PM, rich2005 wrote:

Hi,

I want to make an albumcover, the file is 3008x2000.

Here are the files:
http://ubuntuone.com/2dvEtfLvTurvZjnJAxYpPc (jpg)

wallet template: http://www.wizbit.net/12cm_cd-dvd_packaging_options_printed_card_wallets.htm

Do not want to throw a spanner in the works, but are you planning on using that wizbit to print the covers?
If so, read the small print.
quote
Please leave the colour schemes as CMYK and the resolution as 300dpi. unquote
The 300 dpi is no problem. (great; they quote the size in mm then use dpi) you need an image 3000x1464. Note there is a small 'bleed' margin in those sizes.

You will be comming back asking how to get CMYK, Gimp is a RGB editor and the separate+ plugin is no substitute for starting off an image in CMYK mode.

Even if you do not use wizbit most commercial printers have similar requirements.

Thanks for your feedback. I'm not planning to use wizbit. Uh how to get CMYK? Is there an other opensource tool which can handle that, inkscape for instance?
Could I otherwise export from Gimp to Photoshop and export in photoshop to a CMYK printable file?
There should be some 'workarounds' possible right?

Thanks, \r

rich2005
2013-10-20 11:38:56 UTC (about 11 years ago)

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Thanks for your feedback. I'm not planning to use wizbit. Uh how to get CMYK? Is there an other opensource tool which can handle that, inkscape for instance?
Could I otherwise export from Gimp to Photoshop and export in photoshop
to a CMYK printable file?
There should be some 'workarounds' possible right?

Thanks, \r

You might find a printer that will take an RGB image.

Gimp will convert to a tiff or jpeg using a plugin called separate+ (a search will find it) Inkscape is the same as Gimp uses RGB and there are extensions to export to CMYK.

There can be (will be) a colour shift when you change colour profiles form RGB to CMYK

Best advice I ever got: 'Always get a proof print before ordering those 5000 pamphlets/brochures/menus...."

rosea.grammostola
2013-10-22 16:36:19 UTC (about 11 years ago)

album cover

On 10/20/2013 01:38 PM, rich2005 wrote:

You might find a printer that will take an RGB image.

Gimp will convert to a tiff or jpeg using a plugin called separate+ (a search will find it)
Inkscape is the same as Gimp uses RGB and there are extensions to export to CMYK.

There can be (will be) a colour shift when you change colour profiles form RGB to CMYK

Best advice I ever got: 'Always get a proof print before ordering those 5000 pamphlets/brochures/menus...."

What would be best, to do the conversion yourself via Gimp or let the company do it?

Why would an RGB editor be useful if all the professional printing companies uses CMYK?

This is what I have now, almost finished, feedback is welcome:

http://ubuntuone.com/0AXHecIWwV0hvRLs24ww3s (album cover) http://ubuntuone.com/6GD6wX4UHSQCNipsGDeXeT (cd label)

Best regards, \r

rosea.grammostola
2013-10-22 20:02:18 UTC (about 11 years ago)

album cover

On 10/22/2013 06:36 PM, rosea.grammostola wrote:

What would be best, to do the conversion yourself via Gimp or let the company do it?

Why would an RGB editor be useful if all the professional printing companies uses CMYK?

This is what I have now, almost finished, feedback is welcome:

http://ubuntuone.com/0AXHecIWwV0hvRLs24ww3s (album cover) http://ubuntuone.com/6GD6wX4UHSQCNipsGDeXeT (cd label)

Whats the best way to export an file and deliver it to the printing company?

\r

Owen
2013-10-22 20:20:17 UTC (about 11 years ago)

album cover

On 10/22/2013 06:36 PM, rosea.grammostola wrote:

What would be best, to do the conversion yourself via Gimp or let the
company do it?

Why would an RGB editor be useful if all the professional printing companies uses CMYK?

This is what I have now, almost finished, feedback is welcome:

http://ubuntuone.com/0AXHecIWwV0hvRLs24ww3s (album cover) http://ubuntuone.com/6GD6wX4UHSQCNipsGDeXeT (cd label)

Whats the best way to export an file and deliver it to the printing company?

Hi,

I would ask your printer, they will tell you exactly what they want.

Also, if you are thinking "publishing", perhaps you should think Scribus, an open source DTP that has all the color management that you would ever want. That answers a lot of questions for you.

Image is great.

Owen
rosea.grammostola
2013-10-22 20:27:43 UTC (about 11 years ago)

album cover

On 10/22/2013 10:20 PM, Owen wrote:

On 10/22/2013 06:36 PM, rosea.grammostola wrote:

What would be best, to do the conversion yourself via Gimp or let the
company do it?

Why would an RGB editor be useful if all the professional printing companies uses CMYK?

This is what I have now, almost finished, feedback is welcome:

http://ubuntuone.com/0AXHecIWwV0hvRLs24ww3s (album cover) http://ubuntuone.com/6GD6wX4UHSQCNipsGDeXeT (cd label)

Whats the best way to export an file and deliver it to the printing company?

Hi,

I would ask your printer, they will tell you exactly what they want.

Also, if you are thinking "publishing", perhaps you should think Scribus, an open source DTP that has all the color management that you would ever want. That answers a lot of questions for you.

Image is great.

Thanks. What do you mean by publishing? We will let it print on a CD 12 cm wallet.

\r

rosea.grammostola
2013-10-23 09:49:19 UTC (about 11 years ago)

album cover

On 10/20/2013 01:38 PM, rich2005 wrote:

You might find a printer that will take an RGB image.

Gimp will convert to a tiff or jpeg using a plugin called separate+ (a search will find it)
Inkscape is the same as Gimp uses RGB and there are extensions to export to CMYK.

There can be (will be) a colour shift when you change colour profiles form RGB to CMYK

Best advice I ever got: 'Always get a proof print before ordering those 5000 pamphlets/brochures/menus...."

Wow, seperating the image to CMYK gives a very dissapointing result

http://ubuntuone.com/4fVkXEYFa5TLXSPnrCha3q

:(

Burnie West
2013-10-23 14:00:43 UTC (about 11 years ago)

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On 10/23/2013 02:49 AM, rosea.grammostola wrote:

Wow, seperating the image to CMYK gives a very dissapointing result

Did you export to jpg? Recall jpg is lossy compression --

rosea.grammostola
2013-10-23 18:37:17 UTC (about 11 years ago)

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On 10/23/2013 04:00 PM, Burnie West wrote:

On 10/23/2013 02:49 AM, rosea.grammostola wrote:

Wow, seperating the image to CMYK gives a very dissapointing result

Did you export to jpg? Recall jpg is lossy compression --

I got some help from a friend who is more experienced then me and has photoshop (which doesn't say that it can't be done with Gimp, but I couldn't atm)

Files are delivered at the printing company, thanks for your support!

Artwork and music is here:

http://www.munk050.nl/music/

100% made with free & opensource software on GNU/Linux (music, art, video)

rosea.grammostola
2013-10-25 09:35:03 UTC (about 11 years ago)

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On 10/24/2013 04:35 AM, Sam Gleske wrote:

On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 2:37 PM, rosea.grammostola > wrote:

Artwork and music is here:

http://www.munk050.nl/music/

100% made with free & opensource software on GNU/Linux (music, art, video)

Neat :)

Thanks! :)