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gradient tool Helen 24 Mar 21:28
  gradient tool Owen 24 Mar 21:58
   gradient tool Helen 24 Mar 22:05
    gradient tool Ofnuts 24 Mar 23:34
    gradient tool Richard Gitschlag 25 Mar 13:59
     gradient tool Helen 26 Mar 01:00
      gradient tool Richard Gitschlag 26 Mar 02:03
       gradient tool Steve Kinney 26 Mar 02:15
        gradient tool Richard Gitschlag 26 Mar 03:17
       gradient tool Helen 26 Mar 03:10
Helen
2013-03-24 21:28:24 UTC (about 12 years ago)

gradient tool

Rectangular Selection > Blend tool > Gradient > then pick oh, maybe Burning Transparency for example, or Tube Red -- Is there any way to choose the colors for those gradients? To make them FG & BG Colors for example?
Thanks,
Helen
Using GIMP 2.6.11 on linux, Suse 12

Owen
2013-03-24 21:58:58 UTC (about 12 years ago)

gradient tool

Rectangular Selection > Blend tool > Gradient > then pick oh, maybe Burning Transparency for example, or Tube Red -- Is there any way to choose the colors for those gradients? To make them FG & BG Colors for example?

In the Blend Tool options, you can set the gradient to FG to BG

Owen
Helen
2013-03-24 22:05:33 UTC (about 12 years ago)

gradient tool

Thanks, yes, I've found that one, and it works to fill an entire selection. But I like
the 3-d effects of, for example, the Tube Red. The sharp crisp color and the sense
of depth, but not the red. I guess there's no way to turn it green and blue w/o
loosing the sense of depth that it gives. I can go to color balance, or to various ways to color it after I've used it, but all those
ways cancel out the depth effect. So I guess I'd have to be able to choose the colors
before using the gradient.

On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Owen wrote:

Rectangular Selection > Blend tool > Gradient > then pick oh, maybe Burning Transparency for example, or Tube Red -- Is there any way to choose the colors for those gradients? To make them FG & BG Colors for example?

In the Blend Tool options, you can set the gradient to FG to BG

-- Owen

Helen Etters
using Linux, suse11.4
Ofnuts
2013-03-24 23:34:39 UTC (about 12 years ago)

gradient tool

On 03/24/2013 11:05 PM, Helen wrote:

Thanks, yes, I've found that one, and it works to fill an entire selection. But I like
the 3-d effects of, for example, the Tube Red. The sharp crisp color and the sense
of depth, but not the red. I guess there's no way to turn it green and blue w/o
loosing the sense of depth that it gives. I can go to color balance, or to various ways to color it after I've used it, but all those
ways cancel out the depth effect. So I guess I'd have to be able to choose the colors
before using the gradient.

You can make your own gradients (copy an existing one and edit it if you need something close):

http://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-gradient-dialog.html#gimp-gradient-editor-dialog

(an undocumented feature (discussed here not so long ago) of this dialog is that you can drop colors on it...: on end point handles (black triangles) to change the colors for that endpoint, and on the display, to add a new endpoint with that color on both sides.

Richard Gitschlag
2013-03-25 13:59:39 UTC (about 12 years ago)

gradient tool

On the one hand, using the Gradient Editor you can assign individual nodes to reference the "foreground" or "background" color instead of using a fixed color (right click a node handle and select the "Color Type"), however something like the Tube Red is actually a bit more complicated than a FG/BG fade (it uses more than two colors) so no, you can't "just" change its color to something else - you'd have to apply a consistent change the hue across like five nodes. It's certainly doable, it just isn't as simple as it looks. :(

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Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 18:05:33 -0400 From: etters.h@gmail.com
To: rcook@pcug.org.au
CC: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] gradient tool

Thanks, yes, I've found that one, and it works to fill an entire selection. But I like the 3-d effects of, for example, the Tube Red. The sharp crisp color and the sense of depth, but not the red. I guess there's no way to turn it green and blue w/o

loosing the sense of depth that it gives. I can go to color balance, or to various ways to color it after I've used it, but all those ways cancel out the depth effect. So I guess I'd have to be able to choose the colors

before using the gradient.

On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Owen wrote:

Rectangular Selection > Blend tool > Gradient >

then pick oh, maybe Burning Transparency for example,

or Tube Red -- Is there any way to choose the colors for

those gradients? To make them FG & BG Colors for

example?

In the Blend Tool options, you can set the gradient to FG to BG

--

Owen

Helen Etters
using Linux, suse11.4


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Helen
2013-03-26 01:00:17 UTC (about 12 years ago)

gradient tool

I appreciate the responses, which led me to experimenting. I don't seem to have the Gradient Editor. I guess it's time to upgrade from gimp 2.6. But even if I did have the Editor, I can see that it's beyond my level. Thanks all -- I'll keep playing with it. Helen

On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 9:59 AM, Richard Gitschlag < strata_ranger@hotmail.com> wrote:

On the one hand, using the Gradient Editor you can assign individual nodes to reference the "foreground" or "background" color instead of using a fixed color (right click a node handle and select the "Color Type"), however something like the Tube Red is actually a bit more complicated than a FG/BG fade (it uses more than two colors) so no, you can't "just" change its color to something else - you'd have to apply a consistent change the hue across like five nodes. It's certainly doable, it just isn't as simple as it looks. :(

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------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 18:05:33 -0400 From: etters.h@gmail.com
To: rcook@pcug.org.au
CC: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] gradient tool

Thanks, yes, I've found that one, and it works to fill an entire selection. But I like
the 3-d effects of, for example, the Tube Red. The sharp crisp color and the sense
of depth, but not the red. I guess there's no way to turn it green and blue w/o
loosing the sense of depth that it gives. I can go to color balance, or to various ways to color it after I've used it, but all those
ways cancel out the depth effect. So I guess I'd have to be able to choose the colors
before using the gradient.

On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Owen wrote:

Rectangular Selection > Blend tool > Gradient > then pick oh, maybe Burning Transparency for example, or Tube Red -- Is there any way to choose the colors for those gradients? To make them FG & BG Colors for example?

In the Blend Tool options, you can set the gradient to FG to BG

-- Owen

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using Linux, suse11.4

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Richard Gitschlag
2013-03-26 02:03:21 UTC (about 12 years ago)

gradient tool

But the Gradient Editor has been around pretty much forever, its window is just not loaded into the toolboxes by default. Try double-clicking a gradient from the Gradients dialog (on its icon/preview, not its name), this should bring up the Gradient Editor.

Advance warning: You can't edit the preset gradients (minor design flaw common to all GIMP resources, really), you have to hit the "Duplicate" button on a desired gradient before you go into editing mode. Otherwise the editor will be in read-only mode.

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Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 21:00:17 -0400 Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] gradient tool From: etters.h@gmail.com
To: strata_ranger@hotmail.com
CC: gimp-user-list@gnome.org

I appreciate the responses, which led me to experimenting. I don't seem to have the Gradient Editor. I guess it's time to upgrade from gimp 2.6. But even if I did have the Editor, I can see that it's beyond my level.

Thanks all -- I'll keep playing with it. Helen

Helen Etters
using Linux, suse11.4
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Steve Kinney
2013-03-26 02:15:59 UTC (about 12 years ago)

gradient tool

On 03/25/2013 10:03 PM, Richard Gitschlag wrote:

Advance warning: You can't edit the preset gradients (minor design flaw common to all GIMP resources, really), you have to hit the "Duplicate" button on a desired gradient before you go into editing mode. Otherwise the editor will be in read-only mode.

That's "a feature, not a bug." The default gradients live in a directory shard by all users on a system, so having to work on copies that "belong to" your user account prevents accidental sabotage of other users. The same applies to brushes and other shared resources.

Redundant on a single user desktop, but there's it.

:o)

Steve

Helen
2013-03-26 03:10:36 UTC (about 12 years ago)

gradient tool

On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 10:03 PM, Richard Gitschlag < strata_ranger@hotmail.com> wrote:

But the Gradient Editor has been around pretty much forever, its window is just not loaded into the toolboxes by default. Try double-clicking a gradient from the Gradients dialog (on its icon/preview, not its name), this should bring up the Gradient Editor.

Nope. Doesn't. I had already tried that actually, and also tried the four methods described on the web page (which I happily bookmarked ). I don't seem to have that edit feature. I did find that the Land and Sea gradient, in conical shape, does something close to what I'm trying to do. Helen
GIMP 2.6 on Suse Linux

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Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 21:00:17 -0400 Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] gradient tool From: etters.h@gmail.com
To: strata_ranger@hotmail.com
CC: gimp-user-list@gnome.org

I appreciate the responses, which led me to experimenting. I don't seem to have the Gradient Editor. I guess it's time to upgrade from gimp 2.6. But even if I did have the Editor, I can see that it's beyond my level. Thanks all -- I'll keep playing with it. Helen

--
Helen Etters
using Linux, suse11.4

Helen Etters
using Linux, suse11.4
Richard Gitschlag
2013-03-26 03:17:51 UTC (about 12 years ago)

gradient tool

I mean that the fact you can't make any edits (even unsaved edits) to things like gradients or brush dynamics is the flaw. I know the reason for it, but the end-to-end result is just not very convenient on the user -- brush dynamics especially (I actually removed the default dynamics folder from my GIMP preferences entirely; when I want brush dynamics, I NEED the ability to make arbitrary edits to them!) and the way 2.8 made them an official resource type really shoved it into the spotlight.

Not to stray too far into that topic though -- been there, done that. (https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list/2012-May/msg00148.html)

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Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 22:15:59 -0400 From: admin@pilobilus.net
To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] gradient tool

On 03/25/2013 10:03 PM, Richard Gitschlag wrote:

Advance warning: You can't edit the preset gradients (minor design flaw common to all GIMP resources, really), you have to hit the "Duplicate" button on a desired gradient before you go into editing mode. Otherwise the editor will be in read-only mode.

That's "a feature, not a bug." The default gradients live in a directory shard by all users on a system, so having to work on copies that "belong to" your user account prevents accidental sabotage of other users. The same applies to brushes and other shared resources.

Redundant on a single user desktop, but there's it.

:o)

Steve

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