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Tear off menu bug + work-around Steve Kinney 03 Feb 23:13
  Tear off menu bug + work-around Ofnuts 05 Feb 08:16
   Tear off menu bug + work-around Steve Kinney 06 Feb 05:29
  Tear off menu bug + work-around Akkana Peck 06 Feb 18:55
   Tear off menu bug + work-around Steve Kinney 06 Feb 21:47
Steve Kinney
2013-02-03 23:13:49 UTC (about 12 years ago)

Tear off menu bug + work-around

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Hey y'all,

The GIMP's tear-off menus do not seem to work on Linux platforms. They "tear off" just fine but do nothing when used. This has been constant for me across GIMP 2.6 and 2.8 on Gnome 2 and Gnome 3 (Cinnamon fork). Looking for solutions, I discovered at least one report of the same problem in KDE. This was reported as a bug some time back but it expired unfixed.

I could not find a "real fix" for this, I did see a practical work around: Hit the space bar after clicking on the desired command, and viola, the command is executed.

I thought this was a problem inherent in the desktop window manager, until I was formatting some text in the Bluefish editor and noticed a dotted line at the top of a menu I was digging down to over and over. It turned out to be a tear-off menu that "just works." This suggests to me that the GIMP could also have tear-off menus that "just work."

Does anyone else see this problem on their systems?

:o/

Steve

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Ofnuts
2013-02-05 08:16:40 UTC (about 12 years ago)

Tear off menu bug + work-around

Working fine for me (2.6.8 on Kubuntu 10.04)

On 02/04/2013 12:13 AM, Steve Kinney wrote:

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Hey y'all,

The GIMP's tear-off menus do not seem to work on Linux platforms. They "tear off" just fine but do nothing when used. This has been constant for me across GIMP 2.6 and 2.8 on Gnome 2 and Gnome 3 (Cinnamon fork). Looking for solutions, I discovered at least one report of the same problem in KDE. This was reported as a bug some time back but it expired unfixed.

I could not find a "real fix" for this, I did see a practical work around: Hit the space bar after clicking on the desired command, and viola, the command is executed.

I thought this was a problem inherent in the desktop window manager, until I was formatting some text in the Bluefish editor and noticed a dotted line at the top of a menu I was digging down to over and over. It turned out to be a tear-off menu that "just works." This suggests to me that the GIMP could also have tear-off menus that "just work."

Does anyone else see this problem on their systems?

:o/

Steve

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Steve Kinney
2013-02-06 05:29:19 UTC (about 12 years ago)

Tear off menu bug + work-around

On 02/05/2013 03:16 AM, Ofnuts wrote:

Working fine for me (2.6.8 on Kubuntu 10.04)

Looks like it's not a common problem after all. I guess I have managed to "roll snake eyes", two for two with an oddball configuration problem with no obvious fix.

Oh well. My thumb is next to the spacebar anyway.

:o)

Steve

On 02/04/2013 12:13 AM, Steve Kinney wrote: Hey y'all,

The GIMP's tear-off menus do not seem to work on Linux platforms. They "tear off" just fine but do nothing when used. This has been constant for me across GIMP 2.6 and 2.8 on Gnome 2 and Gnome 3 (Cinnamon fork). Looking for solutions, I discovered at least one report of the same problem in KDE. This was reported as a bug some time back but it expired unfixed.

I could not find a "real fix" for this, I did see a practical work around: Hit the space bar after clicking on the desired command, and viola, the command is executed.

I thought this was a problem inherent in the desktop window manager, until I was formatting some text in the Bluefish editor and noticed a dotted line at the top of a menu I was digging down to over and over. It turned out to be a tear-off menu that "just works." This suggests to me that the GIMP could also have tear-off menus that "just work."

Does anyone else see this problem on their systems?

:o/

Steve

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Akkana Peck
2013-02-06 18:55:29 UTC (about 12 years ago)

Tear off menu bug + work-around

Steve Kinney writes:

The GIMP's tear-off menus do not seem to work on Linux platforms.

[ ... ]

I could not find a "real fix" for this, I did see a practical work around: Hit the space bar after clicking on the desired command, and viola, the command is executed.

Thank you! I've really missed the tear-offs -- they haven't worked for me since 2.6 came out -- and that will help.

Ofnuts wrote:

Working fine for me (2.6.8 on Kubuntu 10.04)

Steve Kinney writes:

Looks like it's not a common problem after all. I guess I have

Are you on Ubuntu? A discussion on #gimp a few weeks ago suggested that it was a problem with Ubuntu's GTK patches. And indeed, when I tried it on a non-Ubuntu system, tear-offs worked fine. They've failed for me on at least three different Ubuntu releases, maybe as many as five. Though it works for Ofnuts on Kubuntu, so it's not ALL Ubuntus ... I haven't had a chance since the discussion to try building a vanilla GTK on my Pangolin system to see if that cures the problem.

Anyway, broken tear-offs are super annoying, have been a problem for years, and although I still wish for a real fix, your workaround is very helpful. Thanks!

...Akkana

Steve Kinney
2013-02-06 21:47:09 UTC (about 12 years ago)

Tear off menu bug + work-around

On 02/06/2013 01:55 PM, Akkana Peck wrote:

Steve Kinney writes:

The GIMP's tear-off menus do not seem to work on Linux platforms.

[ ... ]

I could not find a "real fix" for this, I did see a practical work around: Hit the space bar after clicking on the desired command, and viola, the command is executed.

Thank you! I've really missed the tear-offs -- they haven't worked for me since 2.6 came out -- and that will help.

Aha! Now at least I know it's not my insanity - or ignorance - making this happen.

Are you on Ubuntu? A discussion on #gimp a few weeks ago suggested that it was a problem with Ubuntu's GTK patches. And indeed, when I tried it on a non-Ubuntu system, tear-offs worked fine. They've failed for me on at least three different Ubuntu releases, maybe as many as five. Though it works for Ofnuts on Kubuntu, so it's not ALL Ubuntus ... I haven't had a chance since the discussion to try building a vanilla GTK on my Pangolin system to see if that cures the problem.

I am using Mint with Cinnamon, which is a fork of Gnome 3 with Gnome 2 style desktop features. Mint 14 is built on top of Ubuntu Quantal, so in effect it is a Ubuntu system. Synaptic says I have libgtk-3-0 version 3.6.0-0ubuntu3.2 from the Quantal repo on board.

Odd thing is, the tear off menus in Bluefish work normally.

Anyway, broken tear-offs are super annoying, have been a problem for years, and although I still wish for a real fix, your workaround is very helpful. Thanks!

I saw the spacebar trick in a response to an old help forum thread about the broken tear off menus. It's nice to have tear off menus back.

:o)

Steve