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Sticky state of windows in Gimp 2.8 nitram2001 17 Nov 05:31
  Sticky state of windows in Gimp 2.8 scl 17 Nov 08:15
  Sticky state of windows in Gimp 2.8 Dominik Tabisz 17 Nov 08:18
   Sticky state of windows in Gimp 2.8 nitram2001 18 Nov 04:33
    Sticky state of windows in Gimp 2.8 nitram2001 18 Nov 04:38
     Sticky state of windows in Gimp 2.8 Ville Pätsi 18 Nov 05:53
      Sticky state of windows in Gimp 2.8 nitram2001 18 Nov 06:09
     Sticky state of windows in Gimp 2.8 Alexandre Prokoudine 18 Nov 14:51
      Sticky state of windows in Gimp 2.8 Matthew Miller 18 Nov 15:36
       Sticky state of windows in Gimp 2.8 nitram2001 18 Nov 18:02
2012-11-17 05:31:13 UTC (over 12 years ago)
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Sticky state of windows in Gimp 2.8

I have recently upgraded to Fedora 17 and now have Gimp 2.8 as a consequence.

As a user of Gnu/Linux I am used to using multiple workspaces, a separate workspace for each job in hand but have found that the behaviour of Gimp 2.8 is not to my liking. With Gimp set up in workspace 6 (say) the Gimp dialogs for layers, tools, tool options etc. appear in my other 5 workspaces cluttering them up. I have found no way to remove the "sticky state" of these little windows. I have no problem handling the sticky state with windows of any other application and I have had no problem with previous versions of Gimp.

Please help me find a way to remove the sticky state from these windows.

scl
2012-11-17 08:15:26 UTC (over 12 years ago)

Sticky state of windows in Gimp 2.8

nitram2001 wrote:

Please help me find a way to remove the sticky state from these windows.

Hi nitram2001,

the solution depends on your desktop environment (KDE 4, Gnome 2, Gnome 3, etc.). As far as I see Fedora doesn't have a preference. Which desktop environment in which version do you use? If you're unsure, please post a link to a meaningful screenshot.

Kind regards,

Sven

Dominik Tabisz
2012-11-17 08:18:31 UTC (over 12 years ago)

Sticky state of windows in Gimp 2.8

hi

it might be issue related to comunication between GIMP and Your window manager. Which one do You use? KDE, GNOME, LXDE, Fluxbox or something else?

Please give us some more info: 1) Which window manager do You use
2) Which display manager do You use (gdm/kdm/xdm or other)

3) Have You tried to use GIMP in *any* other window manager. If yes, whether the problem still exist in other Wm.

2012/11/17, nitram2001 :

I have recently upgraded to Fedora 17 and now have Gimp 2.8 as a consequence.

As a user of Gnu/Linux I am used to using multiple workspaces, a separate workspace for each job in hand but have found that the behaviour of Gimp 2.8 is
not to my liking. With Gimp set up in workspace 6 (say) the Gimp dialogs for
layers, tools, tool options etc. appear in my other 5 workspaces cluttering them
up. I have found no way to remove the "sticky state" of these little windows. I
have no problem handling the sticky state with windows of any other application
and I have had no problem with previous versions of Gimp.

Please help me find a way to remove the sticky state from these windows.

-- nitram2001 (via www.gimpusers.com/forums) _______________________________________________ gimp-user-list mailing list
gimp-user-list@gnome.org
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list

2012-11-18 04:33:54 UTC (over 12 years ago)
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Sticky state of windows in Gimp 2.8

hi

it might be issue related to comunication between GIMP and Your window manager. Which one do You use? KDE, GNOME, LXDE, Fluxbox or something else?

Please give us some more info: 1) Which window manager do You use
2) Which display manager do You use (gdm/kdm/xdm or other)

3) Have You tried to use GIMP in *any* other window manager. If yes, whether the problem still exist in other Wm.

2012/11/17, nitram2001 :

2012-11-18 04:38:24 UTC (over 12 years ago)
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Thank you Dominik and Sven,

To answer your questions: I use XFCE as my desktop manager and have done so for many years. I have had limited experience with KDE and the old Gnome. At present I have only GNOME(3) and XFCE on my machines.

Using XFCE I can change the sticky state of any window by clicking in the tiny circle at the far left of the titlebar or by typing f6. this works for any window, including the Gimp main window, but does not work on the Layers/Channels/Paths, Toolkit or tool options windows.

I changed desktop this evening to GNOME and was not able to even find a way to get multiple workspaces. Since (at present) I cannot get multiple workspaces using GNOME I cannot try "sticky state". I could go into the GNOME manuals to find out about multiple workspaces but I think that would be a waste of time and not solve my problem of the super-sticky windows.

This small exercise reinforced my impression that GNOME3 is built for iphone users not for people who want to really use their computers as computers. GNOME has really screwed up.

Anyway, that's how it stands. Since every other window, apart from those mentioned, works as ordered I am sure that it's a Gimp problem (maybe on purpose). I have tried the Gimp help but cannot find any reference to sticky windows or multiple workspaces. I just hope that someone can guide me to a solution. Gimp communicates well with my window manager in the case of the main window, just not with those other three windows.

Ville Pätsi
2012-11-18 05:53:49 UTC (over 12 years ago)

Sticky state of windows in Gimp 2.8

On 2012-11-18 05:38, nitram2001 wrote:

To answer your questions: I use XFCE as my desktop manager and have done so for many years.

Xfwm unfortunately handles utility windows differently from most other window managers. See the GIMP manual for a way to work around the problem:

http://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-pimping.html#gimp-prefs-window-management

Setting both hints to "normal window" should work.

As far as I know the window management specification is vague on this, and many other, subjects. Which leads to programs and people disagreeing on which window types should be used for which purposes.

2012-11-18 06:09:03 UTC (over 12 years ago)
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Solved.

Thank you so much. I checked out the reference that you gave me and found that the hint for docks and toolbox was "Utility" I changed it to "Normal", restarted and all is well the windows behave as all others.

Thank you again . Thanks. Thanks.

Xfwm unfortunately handles utility windows differently from most other window managers. See the GIMP manual for a way to work around the problem:

http://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-pimping.html#gimp-prefs-window-management

Setting both hints to "normal window" should work.

As far as I know the window management specification is vague on this, and many other, subjects. Which leads to programs and people disagreeing
on which window types should be used for which purposes.

Alexandre Prokoudine
2012-11-18 14:51:41 UTC (over 12 years ago)

Sticky state of windows in Gimp 2.8

On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 8:38 AM, nitram2001 wrote:

I changed desktop this evening to GNOME and was not able to even find a way to get multiple workspaces.

How could that possibly even happen?

When you go to Activities, you get an overview of all workspaces/desktops along the right edge of the display. You can navigate and drag/drop windows there.

Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org

Matthew Miller
2012-11-18 15:36:50 UTC (over 12 years ago)

Sticky state of windows in Gimp 2.8

On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 06:51:41PM +0400, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:

I changed desktop this evening to GNOME and was not able to even find a way to get multiple workspaces.

How could that possibly even happen?

That could possibly even happen because this:

When you go to Activities, you get an overview of all workspaces/desktops along the right edge of the display. You can navigate and drag/drop windows there.

isn't necessarily obvious if you're used to the old way. Not that it's bad, just a change. Especially because those desktops aren't expanded by default. I find this shell extension helpful:

https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/503/always-zoom-workspaces/

Matthew Miller           mattdm@mattdm.org          
2012-11-18 18:02:04 UTC (over 12 years ago)
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Hi Matthew,

Thanks. I checked out GNOME3 again and: yes, there is a pop-up panel on the right that I had not seen at first. I'm not used to having a panel there. I'll stick with XFCE though, I love the magic right click that does so much and the old ways work better for me.

I just checked into gimpusers.com to solve my problem but find that there is much there to help me with using Gimp. I'll be looking in here more often. I find this forum to be very friendly and helpful.

That could possibly even happen because this: isn't necessarily obvious if you're used to the old way. Not that it's bad,
just a change. Especially because those desktops aren't expanded by default.
I find this shell extension helpful:

https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/503/always-zoom-workspaces/