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application suggestions to evaluate tool options - input needed

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foser
2012-05-30 18:11:54 UTC (over 12 years ago)

application suggestions to evaluate tool options - input needed

Hello,

as mentioned on the gimp.org main page I have started a new UI design project under the
supervision of Kate and Peter with a focus on the Tool Options. The current progress can be found on
http://gui.gimp.org/index.php/Work_in_progress .

For the next step we are looking to evaluate GIMP using the user scenarios mentioned in the link above, the scenarios are firmly rooted in the vision described. Besides evaluating GIMP we will also be looking at a number of (similar) applications and their use of Tool Options or equivalant UI elements.

This is the point where you come in. Of course we have some applications in mind, but we would also like to hear from you what applications you think of if you think about working with tools and manipulating their options in a graphics manipulation context. Name the application and a short description of how it supports and/or interferes with your workflow.

We will use the suggestions here as a basis for the list of applications to be evaluated in this design process.

I'm eager to find out what you all come up with.

Thanks, foser

PS. This was first posted at the gimp-dev list, but I figured this is a better place for such input.

2012-05-31 10:24:11 UTC (over 12 years ago)
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application suggestions to evaluate tool options - input needed

First of all, many thanks for this opportunity; unfortunately not all projects have this attitude towards their users.

And now, let's get into matter! I use GIMP to retouch my photographs, and spend most of my time in the application doing the following tasks:

* Cloning, to fix sensor dust, of remove some unwanted element from the photograph. * Dodging and burning, or painting on an overlay layer, to lighten or darken some zones, add volume to objects, re-balance the light in the scene, ... * Paint large areas with a solid black color, to create a false dark background. * Paint on a mask, to selectively merge two versions of the same image.

[I think it is worth mentioning that I own a Wacom tablet, which I use extensively; it usually sits in the center of my desktop, with the keyboard and mouse both displaced to a side (thus, having to use the mouse or the keyboard slows down my workflow)].

So, I'm always using some type of brush tool in GIMP; I exclusively use round brushes, that I change in size and hardness quite frequently. In 2.6 I would always have the brush editor dialog open with a custom brush, and modify it from there.

In 2.8 I cannot change the size from the brush editor (well, I can, but the change does not get reflected into the tool immediately); so, in order to avoid having to go back and forth between the brush editor and the tool options dialog, I have to create brushes for each hardness level. I would prefer to have a dialog where I could quickly change the size and hardness of the brush.

And speaking of this, I haven't still got used to the new size selection widget; in particular, setting small values is a bit cumbersome, in my humble opinion.

Gary Aitken
2012-05-31 19:05:37 UTC (over 12 years ago)

application suggestions to evaluate tool options - input needed

On 05/31/12 04:24, eduperez wrote:

So, I'm always using some type of brush tool in GIMP; I exclusively use round brushes,
that I change in size and hardness quite frequently.

I would second that comment

In 2.8 I cannot change the size from the brush editor (well, I can, but the change does not get reflected into the tool immediately); so, in order to avoid having to go back and forth between the brush editor and the tool options dialog, I have to create brushes for each hardness level. I would prefer to have a dialog where I could quickly change the size and hardness of the brush.

I haven't still got used to the new size selection widget; in particular, setting small values is a bit cumbersome, in my humble opinion.

I agree. Unless running it clear down to 1, I always end up clicking on it and typing in the value. It would be nice to have an option for each slider to be able to clamp it to some number of decimal points or just integer values.

Liam R E Quin
2012-05-31 19:38:41 UTC (over 12 years ago)

application suggestions to evaluate tool options - input needed

On Thu, 2012-05-31 at 13:05 -0600, Gary Aitken wrote:

On 05/31/12 04:24, eduperez wrote:

So, I'm always using some type of brush tool in GIMP; I exclusively use round brushes,
that I change in size and hardness quite frequently.

same here.

I have $ and % keys bound to changing hardness, and GIMP comes with { [ ] and } for changing the brush size.

In preferences/keyboard shortcuts:

Under Tools,

[ is Decrease Value 2 { is Decrease Value 2 More
] is Increase Value 2
} is Increase Value 2 More

Under Context,

4 is Decrease Hardness $ is Decrease Hardness More
5 is Increase Hardness
% is Increase Hardness More
(I added the lsat four bindings myself; on my keyboard $ and % are the shifted versions of 4 and 5 respectively, and I used to use 2 and 3 and shifted versions fo those for brush size before I found GIMP already binds them)

Liam