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An introduction and some questions Mark Peng 20 Dec 23:34
  An introduction and some questions Kasim Ahmic 21 Dec 00:18
  An introduction and some questions kevin 21 Dec 00:23
   An introduction and some questions Frank Gore 21 Dec 04:18
  An introduction and some questions Chris Mohler 21 Dec 05:25
An introduction and some questions Mark Peng 21 Dec 06:42
Mark Peng
2011-12-20 23:34:41 UTC (about 13 years ago)

An introduction and some questions

Hi fellow GIMP user,

My name is Mark Peng. I first learned about GIMP as a photographer and a Linux user. It was the best tool for someone like me who need a powerful tool and didn't want to boot back in Windows just to use Photoshop.

Few years after I started using GIMP and I joined a company that makes Windows based tablet computer with an active digital stylus and multitouch input. While my colleagues focus how Photoshop and Artrage would run on our tablet, I thought GIMP would be the perfect software for the tablet and our customer. I already tested it out, it runs great and the pen pressure sensitivity is supported. However, I am hesitate to recommend to the company because I am not familiar with GNU General Public License. I was wondering if someone on the discussion forum could help me understand the finer detail I did look at this link and understand GIMP is a free software under GNU General Public License.
http://www.gimp.org/about/COPYING
http://www.gimp.org/about/selling.html We don't intend to sell it for profit or charge extra for the service of installing it. The goal here is to preinstall it on the system since so many of our customers like it and ask us why we don't include it in the first place.

Kasim Ahmic
2011-12-21 00:18:04 UTC (about 13 years ago)

An introduction and some questions

I can't help you understand the license but if you can get GIMP to run on tablets like the iPad, that would be awesome! Getting it on the iPhone and iPod Touch would be even more amazing! But if you aren't able to, that fine :P

Sent from my iPod

On Dec 20, 2011, at 6:34 PM, Mark Peng wrote:

Hi fellow GIMP user,

My name is Mark Peng. I first learned about GIMP as a photographer and a Linux user. It was the best tool for someone like me who need a powerful tool and didn't want to boot back in Windows just to use Photoshop.

Few years after I started using GIMP and I joined a company that makes Windows based tablet computer with an active digital stylus and multitouch input. While my colleagues focus how Photoshop and Artrage would run on our tablet, I thought GIMP would be the perfect software for the tablet and our customer. I already tested it out, it runs great and the pen pressure sensitivity is supported. However, I am hesitate to recommend to the company because I am not familiar with GNU General Public License. I was wondering if someone on the discussion forum could help me understand the finer detail I did look at this link and understand GIMP is a free software under GNU General Public License. http://www.gimp.org/about/COPYING
http://www.gimp.org/about/selling.html We don't intend to sell it for profit or charge extra for the service of installing it. The goal here is to preinstall it on the system since so many of our customers like it and ask us why we don't include it in the first place.

-- Mark Peng
Kupa LLC
mark.peng@kupaworld.com
(626)539-4287
www.kupaworld.com

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kevin
2011-12-21 00:23:52 UTC (about 13 years ago)

An introduction and some questions

Whilst IANAL, I understand that the GPL would not preclude you from using GIMP in the way that you want.

I believe that it is also within the GPL to sell it for a profit. However, the ethics of doing that would be questionable if some of that profit was not directed to the GIMP project.

On Tue December 20 2011 15:34:41 Mark Peng wrote:

Hi fellow GIMP user,

My name is Mark Peng. I first learned about GIMP as a photographer and a Linux user. It was the best tool for someone like me who need a powerful tool and didn't want to boot back in Windows just to use Photoshop.

Few years after I started using GIMP and I joined a company that makes Windows based tablet computer with an active digital stylus and multitouch input. While my colleagues focus how Photoshop and Artrage would run on our tablet, I thought GIMP would be the perfect software for the tablet and our customer. I already tested it out, it runs great and the pen pressure sensitivity is supported. However, I am hesitate to recommend to the company because I am not familiar with GNU General Public License. I was wondering if someone on the discussion forum could help me understand the finer detail I did look at this link and understand GIMP is a free software under GNU General Public License.
http://www.gimp.org/about/COPYING
http://www.gimp.org/about/selling.html We don't intend to sell it for profit or charge extra for the service of installing it. The goal here is to preinstall it on the system since so many of our customers like it and ask us why we don't include it in the first place.

Frank Gore
2011-12-21 04:18:36 UTC (about 13 years ago)

An introduction and some questions

It's pretty straightforward when it comes to the GPL. You can distribute the compiled software all you want either at no cost or for a price. What you can't do is make changes to it and then distribute it without making those changes available to everyone in source code form. Whatever you distribute must also be made available in source code form, either for free or for a reasonable cost (ie. the cost of making a CD and mailing it). You also can't incorporate any changes that make it incompatible with the GPL, which means any changes you make must not include code that is licensed under an incompatible license (ie. proprietary code).

Since the source code for Gimp is easily available already, anyone can distribute the unmodified software and just include a link to the official source code online. Technically, the link is already there in the software. No costs involved, and full compliance with the GPL.

-- Frank Gore
www.ProjectPontiac.com

Chris Mohler
2011-12-21 05:25:38 UTC (about 13 years ago)

An introduction and some questions

On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Mark Peng wrote:

We don't intend to sell it for profit or charge extra for the service of installing it.  The goal here is to preinstall it on the system since so many of our customers like it and ask us why we don't include it in the first place.

IANAL either, but pre-installing should almost certainly be OK, as long as you direct any requests for the source code to the project site - IE, if any of your customers ask for the source code, you can either provide it yourself or a link to the downloads on gimp.org.

In other words: go nuts, install away! ;) The only thing you're really forbidden from is making changes to the GIMP program and not making those changes available to others.

Chris

Mark Peng
2011-12-21 06:42:54 UTC (about 13 years ago)

An introduction and some questions

Thanks guys for clarification regarding GPL and GIMP. As I recommend GIMP to my colleagues, I will definitely make sure we contribute back to the GIMP community in various ways. We can definitely help out on bugs, manual translation into various languages as well as hosting event for GIMP down the road. We will be at CES so if any of you are visiting, welcome to swing by, test out GIMP and see if you are lucky enough to win the drawing for our tablet.