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Listequette Steve VanSlyck 28 May 02:03
  Listequette mac9416 28 May 02:11
  Listequette Branko Vukelic 28 May 02:56
   Listequette Patrick Shanahan 28 May 03:08
   Listequette Michael Schumacher 28 May 07:16
Listequette Jernej Simon?i? 28 May 08:58
Listequette Jernej Simon?i? 28 May 09:01
  Listequette Branko Vukelic 28 May 10:11
Listequette Terry Moss 28 May 10:23
Listequette Steve VanSlyck 28 May 14:48
  Listequette Deniz Dogan 29 May 15:16
   Listequette Andrew 29 May 15:47
AANLkTilC44UdDzcCEQJhxyqRdm... 07 Oct 20:21
  Listequette Branko Vukelic 28 May 03:09
Steve VanSlyck
2010-05-28 02:03:18 UTC (over 14 years ago)

Listequette

May I offer a respectful and kind suggestion to all? When replying to a message, please cut as much of the original message is not relevant to your reply. This is especially true when saying thank you - so readers don't have to page down through several messages just to see a very brief message.

Interweb "Listequette" suggest that quoted material shoule be no more than 20% of the new material. Like all rules there will be many good reasons for exceptions, but "you get the idea."

Thanks.

mac9416
2010-05-28 02:11:50 UTC (over 14 years ago)

Listequette

Hi, Steve,

Question on the subject of listequette: Gmail defaults to "top-posting" in replies. But I think I've heard that it's considered rude. On this list, is it preferred to ignore Gmail's default and put my reply after the previous person's message?

Thanks

On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 7:03 PM, Steve VanSlyck wrote:

May I offer a respectful and kind suggestion to all? When replying to a message, please cut as much of the original message is not relevant to your reply. This is especially true when saying thank you - so readers don't have to page down through several messages just to see a very brief message.

Interweb "Listequette" suggest that quoted material shoule be no more than 20% of the new material. Like all rules there will be many good reasons for exceptions, but "you get the idea."

Thanks.

Branko Vukelic
2010-05-28 02:56:38 UTC (over 14 years ago)

Listequette

On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 2:03 AM, Steve VanSlyck wrote:

May I offer a respectful and kind suggestion to all? When replying to a message, please cut as much of the original message is not relevant to your reply. This is especially true when saying thank you - so readers don't have to page down through several messages just to see a very brief message.

Users wouldn't need to scroll down if the simple messages like "Thank you" were top-posted.
So, another suggestion is:

ALWAYS top-post messages that are not replies to any particular part of the original e-mail, and optionally (and preferably) also snip the original message short.

Sounds OK?

Regards,

Patrick Shanahan
2010-05-28 03:08:50 UTC (over 14 years ago)

Listequette

* Branko Vukelic [05-27-10 20:58]:

On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 2:03 AM, Steve VanSlyck wrote:

May I offer a respectful and kind suggestion to all? When replying to a message, please cut as much of the original message is not relevant to your reply. This is especially true when saying thank you - so readers don't have to page down through several messages just to see a very brief message.

Good suggestion.

Users wouldn't need to scroll down if the simple messages like "Thank you" were top-posted.

If the msg were trimmed, there would be no need for top posting.

So, another suggestion is:

ALWAYS top-post messages that are not replies to any particular part of the original e-mail, and optionally (and preferably) also snip the original message short.

Sounds OK?

No, trim your quotes and post answers or points immediately following the pertinent quote. Top posting should never be necessary.

Branko Vukelic
2010-05-28 03:09:11 UTC (over 14 years ago)

Listequette

On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 3:03 AM, Frank Gore wrote:

I think "guidelines" and common sense are probably more useful for listequette than hard and fast rules that will always get broken.

No harm in mentioning them, methinks. It's not some hard-to-remember rule that's even harder not to break, too.

Regards,

Michael Schumacher
2010-05-28 07:16:48 UTC (over 14 years ago)

Listequette

Von: Branko Vukelic

Users wouldn't need to scroll down if the simple messages like "Thank you" were top-posted.

They won't have to scroll down if you trim the post you're replying to to the one essential phrase or paragraph, either.

Or, if that's not possible in your opinion, you can summarize that post in a single line using your own words, put that in square brackets and add your Thanks below, e.g.

" [helpful comments about $aspect of $topic]

Thanks! "

HTH,
Michael

Jernej Simon?i?
2010-05-28 08:58:38 UTC (over 14 years ago)

Listequette

On Thu, 27 May 2010 19:11:50 -0500, mac9416 wrote:

Gmail defaults to "top-posting" in replies. But I think I've heard that it's considered rude. On this list, is it preferred to ignore Gmail's default and put my reply after the previous person's message?

Both top and bottom posting are annoying - you should respond to the message in-line, and remove irrelevant quotes.

On the topic of top-posting:

,----- | A: Because of this.
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| > Q: Why is top-posting annoying?
`-----

Jernej Simon?i?
2010-05-28 09:01:36 UTC (over 14 years ago)

Listequette

On Fri, 28 May 2010 02:56:38 +0200, Branko Vukelic wrote:

Users wouldn't need to scroll down if the simple messages like "Thank you" were top-posted.

Most e-mail clients let you read messages by simply pressing the spacebar - it'll first scroll through the message, and at the end of message jump to the next unread. With such top-posted replies, you have to scroll through irrelevant quotes before going to the next message.

Branko Vukelic
2010-05-28 10:11:20 UTC (over 14 years ago)

Listequette

2010/5/28 Jernej Simon?i? :

On Fri, 28 May 2010 02:56:38 +0200, Branko Vukelic wrote:

Users wouldn't need to scroll down if the simple messages like "Thank you" were top-posted.

Most e-mail clients let you read messages by simply pressing the spacebar - it'll first scroll through the message, and at the end of message jump to the next unread. With such top-posted replies, you have to scroll through irrelevant quotes before going to the next message.

I never said you must keep all irrelevant quotes, did I?

Terry Moss
2010-05-28 10:23:03 UTC (over 14 years ago)

Listequette

Again I receive this coded Email.....

Terry

----- Original Message ---

Steve VanSlyck
2010-05-28 14:48:40 UTC (over 14 years ago)

Listequette

Most e-mail clients let you read messages by simply pressing the spacebar

If by Most you exclude Thunderbird and POP Peeper you might be right.....

Deniz Dogan
2010-05-29 15:16:17 UTC (over 14 years ago)

Listequette

Why do you guys even try to convince people that you're right when it comes to mailing list/Usenet etiquette? This has been discussed since the beginning of time and people have still to agree on anything other than where the signature goes.

Andrew
2010-05-29 15:47:47 UTC (over 14 years ago)

Listequette

Andrew

Deniz Dogan wrote:

where the signature goes.

Right.