Hi Jennifer,

On 28 Nov 09 13:23 Jennifer Mohr said:

1] The main GIMP Tool page over laps every other page. You can not put it behind the other pages like you could before. Not to mention that it keeps getting in the way!!!

You can always go to EDIT > PREFERENCES > WINDOW MANAGEMENT and change the window behaviour. The new default is "Utility Window". Change it back to "Normal Window".

However, it is much better is to get used to the new type and use the TAB key to make the toolbox disappear. REcover the Toolbox with another TAB keystroke, while the Image window has focus.

2] There's no main menu (File, Tools, Edit, etc, etc) at the top of the GIMP Tool page.

It's now on the Image window - far more sensible and conventional!

I can't open files, start new files,

Course you can! Use the conventional Open dialogue, accessed from the FILE menu on the new Main window or Image Window should you already have an image open, or simply drag and drop the file you wish to edit on to "Wilber's Eyes", either on the Toolbox or the Main window. Couldn't be easier!

open the layers or brush pages.

I confess I've customised my GIMP so that these dialogues are now docked in the bottom half of the Toolbox - but it really is up to you how you customise the proram. Why not experiment a little to find a way to work that suits you best!

I have to go to one of my already opened files to do this.

Rubbish! Just customise the GIMP to the way you want it!

Greg Chapman http://www.gregtutor.plus.com
Helping new users of KompoZer and The GIMP

Jennifer Mohr wrote:

After quite some time, I finally updated my GIMP from my beloved 2.4.7 to 2.6.7. Upon starting up the new GIMP I saw the new design that GIMP now had. I found that GIMP was much, much hard to use and made things much more frustrating.

Oh, Jennifer, I'm sorry that this hit you like this. You are not alone. There was HUGE discussion on this list when it happened and many expressed exactly the same frustrations as you.

You can fix the first just by hitting the key. That makes your toolbox and layers dialog disappear giving you uncluttered access to your image. It turns out, after you get used to it, that it's better this way. The toolbox gets in the way less because you make it disappear, but it's more convenient because when you hit again it's right on top where you can get to it. Before people would lose their toolbox behind and have to hunt for it.

For the second issue, i.e. the menu's left the toolbox, that is because working without the toolbox window makes it more convenient to have the menus on the image window. That's also the reason that if you close your last image you get the blank window (almost blank, Wilbur's still there and you can drag and drop an image onto him.

I think you'll find, after your habits get trained that this is actually better/easier/more productive, but I'm with you. It was tremendously annoying for a few days, then I decided they were geniuses.

Patrick

On 11/28/09, Jennifer Mohr wrote:

2] There's no main menu (File, Tools, Edit, etc, etc) at the top of the GIMP Tool page. I can't open files, start new files, open the layers or brush pages. I have to go to one of my already opened files to do this. Its really annoying!

Well, think about it from a different angle: before, when you closed the last image, all you had were just two thin floating dockers, so you had to drop a new image on just one of them and exactly in the right place. And on systems where windows of these dockers were utility windows, you would have a tough time looking for these dockers, because, believe or not, these windows were not listed in the windows pager. So now you have a whole window that solves exactly this issue. Besides, this window is just a first step to upcoming optional single-window mode.

Alexandre