nyt wrote:

I use Windows Vista home premium 64-bit and have Gimp 2.6.6 and every once in a while, during using gimp, my computer says an error and that windows is causing Gimp to close. If i didn't save it I lose everything. Gimp is great except for this major problem. Any suggestions? Thank you, Nyt

Hi,

your error is in the first half of your first sentence. You use Windows Vista... if you don't like Linux, that's maybe because you haven't tried it yet. But please at least upgrade to Windows XP, it is a lot better than Vista!

Peter

On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 20:19:35 +0300, peter kostov wrote:

your error is in the first half of your first sentence. You use Windows Vista... if you don't like Linux, that's maybe because you haven't tried it yet. But please at least upgrade to Windows XP, it is a lot better than Vista!

Really? On decent hardware (read: anything bought in the last 2 years with at least 2GB RAM), Vista works much better than XP. Vista x64 is also the primary testing ground for GIMP on Windows - at least for the releases available at gimp-win.sf.net.

On Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:27:38 +0200 (CEST), nyt wrote:

I use Windows Vista home premium 64-bit and have Gimp 2.6.6 and every once in a while, during using gimp, my computer says an error and that windows is causing Gimp to close. If i didn't save it I lose everything. Gimp is great except for this major problem. Any suggestions? Thank you,

Is there any pattern to the crashes? What does the Details box say when a crash happens?

On Fri, 3 Apr 2009 20:51:26 +0200 (CEST), richie wrote:

The only pattern that seems to be it is when i click on "file", but it's not all the time and it seems more likely when I have another internet explorer window open.
message says:

Strange. You don't get a [?] button that would display more details about the crash?

On Sat, 4 Apr 2009 05:34:17 +0200 (CEST), richie wrote:

....no, it does say something before the text i wrote but it's very brief, i can't catch exactly what it says.

You don't get this dialog when GIMP crashes: http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/319/image1gmr.png

I'm interested in the text that appears when you click the circled button.

Also, why is your mailer removing the Re: prefix in subject?

On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 20:19:35 +0300, peter kostov wrote:

Really? On decent hardware (read: anything bought in the last 2 years with at least 2GB RAM), Vista works much better than XP. Vista x64 is also the primary testing ground for GIMP on Windows - at least for the releases available at gimp-win.sf.net.

Not certain if this reply is directed to the right party - having trouble deciphering quotes from new postings on this board, however: I am amused by the notion that 'decent hardware' is that purchased in the last 2 years with at least 2gb ram, and also by the notion that Vista in any flavor runs better than xp.
I will agree that newer hardware tends to run either OS faster - so, if faster is better, newer hardware rules. OTOH, I am running GIMP on a 5-year old 3.0 gHz machine (2GB RAM) in XP and in Linux (Ubuntu 8.10), and it runs just fine in both. The latest version of Gimp runs as well in XP as it does in Ubuntu. Previous versions of GIMP would crash in XP.

I purchased (by 'involuntary' default because almost nothing else was available) a 64-bit Vista notebook for my daughter. Vista on that machine runs as well as XP on mine, and that's a good thing. It runs like a snail on my son's 1.5 year old 32-bit notebook.

We would have scrapped Vista on the new notebook (I own an unused copy of XP) except that XP drivers for the HD on the new notebook are not readily available (another MS-imposed 'involuntary' default. . . keeps my heart beating warm for MS . . . their day is coming).

Caruso

Hi Carusoswi,

I just need to correct this one thing:

On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 10:26 PM, Carusoswi wrote:

Not certain if this reply is directed to the right party - having trouble deciphering quotes from new postings on this board, however:

This is not a message board, it is a mailing list. I daresay your problems arise from using the gimpusers forums, which pretend, with limited effectiveness, that this mailing list is a message board. Both the users of the board and the users of this mailing-list (gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu) have been confused and inconvenienced multiple times by the erratic results of the gimpusers board emulation software.
Please stop using it, and instead subscribe to gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu , which is the normal way to access this mailing list.

(see http://www.gimp.org/mail_lists.html)

Thanks.

David

On Sat, 4 Apr 2009 13:56:45 +0200 (CEST), Carusoswi wrote:

Not certain if this reply is directed to the right party - having trouble deciphering quotes from new postings on this board, however:

Forum? This is a mailing list (though there are a web and nntp interfaces to it through http://gmane.org/).

I purchased (by 'involuntary' default because almost nothing else was available) a 64-bit Vista notebook for my daughter. Vista on that machine runs as well as XP on mine, and that's a good thing. It runs like a snail on my son's 1.5 year old 32-bit notebook.

Make sure it's got at least 2GB RAM, and a graphic card with WDDM drivers (even if you don't use Aero). My laptop is almost 3 years old (though I have upgraded it somewhat - replaced the original T2300 1,6GHz CPU with T7200 2GHz CPU and increased RAM from 1GB to 3GB), and Vista works really well on it.

We would have scrapped Vista on the new notebook (I own an unused copy of XP) except that XP drivers for the HD on the new notebook are not readily available (another MS-imposed 'involuntary' default. . . keeps my heart beating warm for MS . . . their day is coming).

If the notebook is using SATA in native mode, the problem is simply that XP was developed before that. Nothing much to do with Microsoft (and actually, you should thank Intel that they released AHCI as open standard, so that future chipsets from multiple vendors can be supported with the built-in drivers in the OS).

Check in BIOS if there's a setting for SATA mode - it should be set to IDE or Compatible, not Native or AHCI. If there is no such setting, you can download nLite from and use it to integrate drivers to an XP installation CD (you might want to do this even if there is a BIOS setting, if the laptop has an eSATA port - eSATA hotplugging is not supported when SATA controller is in IDE/Compatible mode).