Rlt46gem@aol.com wrote:

For the moment I use the following work-around: I have the help

files
(which are in html) installed at a known point on my system, and I have my web browser set to open them as a file on the local machine. When I run into an issue which necessitates my consulting the helpd files, I open the help files in my browser. ns <<< Hello Noel,

I know I can access the manual on line, but would rather not (see my previous post to Doug). I don't understand the workaround you describe... I really do not know that much, technically, about computers. But if you have them installed on your "local system" (hard drive?) why would you need to access them on line? Or maybe the question is... if you access the manual on line via your browser, why go to the trouble of installing them anywhere else? Sorry for the questions... but I really don't want to remain computer ignorant forever.
Rebecca

Rebecca,
Someone else will have to give you specific instructions for Windows XL, but in general terms you read the Help document with your internet browser - you just set it to look at a file instead of at a website.

With Firefox, for instance, click on File , then Open File, then follow it to where you've installed Help.
For Internet Explorer the procedure will be very similar. In XL you can probably drag the Help files onto the desktop for it to leave an icon on the desktop as a shortcut.

I expect someone will correct these steps for you. Doug

Doug wrote:

Rlt46gem@aol.com wrote:

For the moment I use the following work-around: I have the help

files
(which are in html) installed at a known point on my system, and I have my web browser set to open them as a file on the local machine. When I run into an issue which necessitates my consulting the helpd files, I open the help files in my browser. ns <<< Hello Noel,

I know I can access the manual on line, but would rather not (see my previous post to Doug). I don't understand the workaround you describe... I really do not know that much, technically, about computers. But if you have them installed on your "local system" (hard drive?) why would you need to access them on line? Or maybe the question is... if you access the manual on line via your browser, why go to the trouble of installing them anywhere else? Sorry for the questions... but I really don't want to remain computer ignorant forever.

Rebecca

Rebecca,
Someone else will have to give you specific instructions for Windows XL, but in general terms you read the Help document with your internet browser - you just set it to look at a file instead of at a website.

With Firefox, for instance, click on File , then Open File, then follow it to where you've installed Help. For Internet Explorer the procedure will be very similar. In XL you can probably drag the Help files onto the desktop for it to leave an icon on the desktop as a shortcut.

I expect someone will correct these steps for you. Doug

P.S. Of course, this way the Help tab on Gimp won't work, but at least you'll be able to read the Help Manual whenever you need it

Doug

Von: Doug

P.S. Of course, this way the Help tab on Gimp won't work, but at least you'll be able to read the Help Manual whenever you need it

I wrote about it on a german forum yesterday, so let's summarize this again:

We have two versions of the help files, local/online. We have two different browsers, web/gimp

This results in four cases (if assuming that help is installed locally), and I did try each of them:

- web/local: works - web/online: does not work, local version is used :) - gimp/local: works
- gimp/online: works

This is on Debian Sid and Windows XP, the latter does have a help browser plug-in yet, so I skipped the last two tests here.

In order to check why the local help might now be found, it could be useful to use tools that do show what files are accessed (e.g. on Windows XP: Filemon).

Regards, Michael

Rebecca:

I know I can access the manual on line, but would rather not (see my previous post to Doug). I don't understand the workaround you describe... I really do not know that much, technically, about computers. But if you have them installed on your "local system" (hard drive?) why would you need to access them on line?

I have the help files installed on my local machine, and since they are html format, and I use my web browser to view them as local files. You don't say what browser you use, but if (as I suspect) you are using Windows XP, you have Internet Explorer built in. So what I recommend that you navigate to the folder in which the Gimp Help files are located (on my machine, the path in which they are installed is C:\Gimp-2.0\share\gimp\2.0\help\en\ ) and double-click on the file "index.html" at which point the help file should open in your browser. You can then set a bookmark in your browser, or create a shortcut to the index.html file in the help folder.

I know dial up is a pain, especially with files as large as the GIMP Windows installer, and the GIMP help files. You might check with your local library, or the library at school; they may have a higher speed connection so that you can use a thumb drive and download upgrades when you need them.

ns

Ken Warner wrote:

I also would like to download the GIMP documentation and run it locally. But I can't find a help manual download. I only can find a tar.bz2 tarball
and I don't think I have a program to open that...

Where is a downloadable GIMP help file with all the HTML pages in it so I can run the help locally from GIMP?

Ken,
tar.bz2 is a linux compressed file, so it won't be any use to you if you're running Windows.
On linux, first move the downloaded .tar.bz2 file to a folder where it will be convenient to keep the Help manual. Then in a terminal window, type
tar xzvjf .tar.bz2
This will uncompress the Help Manual into your chosen folder.

Doug

Doug wrote:

Ken Warner wrote:

I also would like to download the GIMP documentation and run it locally. But I can't find a help manual download. I only can find a tar.bz2 tarball
and I don't think I have a program to open that...

Where is a downloadable GIMP help file with all the HTML pages in it so I can run the help locally from GIMP?

Ken,
tar.bz2 is a linux compressed file, so it won't be any use to you if you're running Windows.
On linux, first move the downloaded .tar.bz2 file to a folder where it will be convenient to keep the Help manual. Then in a terminal window, type
tar xzvjf .tar.bz2

Shouldn't that be:

tar xvjf .tar.bz2

??

Andrew

This will uncompress the Help Manual into your chosen folder.

Doug

Von: Doug

tar.bz2 is a linux compressed file, so it won't be any use to you if you're running Windows.

The point of this statement is true - someone who can make use of the file's content as intended on Windows won't have to ask how to handle them - but I would like to point out that simply packaging a file with tar and bzip2 does not make it linux-specific.

Utilities like e.g. 7zip will happily extract (and create) archives of this type on windows, too.

Regards, Michael

Andrew wrote:

Doug wrote:

Ken Warner wrote:

I also would like to download the GIMP documentation and run it locally.
But I can't find a help manual download. I only can find a tar.bz2 tarball
and I don't think I have a program to open that...

Where is a downloadable GIMP help file with all the HTML pages in it so I can run the help locally from GIMP?

Ken,
tar.bz2 is a linux compressed file, so it won't be any use to you if you're running Windows.
On linux, first move the downloaded .tar.bz2 file to a folder where it will be convenient to keep the Help manual. Then in a terminal window, type
tar xzvjf .tar.bz2

Shouldn't that be:

tar xvjf .tar.bz2

??

Andrew

Humble apologies :-[
I noticed that as soon as I sent off the post; z and j are *alternative* options
Doug

Michael Schumacher wrote:

Von: Doug

tar.bz2 is a linux compressed file, so it won't be any use to you if you're running Windows.

The point of this statement is true - someone who can make use of the file's content as intended on Windows won't have to ask how to handle them - but I would like to point out that simply packaging a file with tar and bzip2 does not make it linux-specific.

Utilities like e.g. 7zip will happily extract (and create) archives of this type on windows, too.

Regards, Michael

Thanks for that information

Doug

Hi,

On Thu, 2009-02-26 at 13:01 +0100, Michael Schumacher wrote:

- web/online: does not work, local version is used :)

Uh, how should this be interpreted? This certainly work for me.

Sven