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Need help with "Help"!!! -- Att.: Sven Rlt46gem@aol.com 26 Feb 03:37
  Need help with "Help"!!! -- Att.: Sven Sven Neumann 26 Feb 19:22
Need help with "Help"!!! -- Att.: Sven Rlt46gem@aol.com 26 Feb 22:12
  Need help with "Help"!!! -- Att.: Sven Chris Mohler 26 Feb 22:26
  Need help with "Help"!!! -- Att.: Sven Michael Schumacher 26 Feb 22:35
Need help with "Help"!!! -- Att.: Sven Jernej Simon?i? 26 Feb 22:47
Rlt46gem@aol.com
2009-02-26 03:37:11 UTC (almost 16 years ago)

Need help with "Help"!!! -- Att.: Sven

In a message dated 2/25/2009 3:53:04 P.M. Central Standard Time, sven@gimp.org writes:

You did not tell us what operating system you are on. You did not tell

us what version of GIMP you have installed, nor what version of the GIMP user manual you did install. How are we supposed to help you? Sven <<<
Hello Sven,

Aside from the rudeness of your approach, you asked some valid questions:
I am using Windows XL.
I am using GIMP 2.6.0.
I have (but, obviously not using) Help manual 2.4.0.
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Sven Neumann
2009-02-26 19:22:35 UTC (almost 16 years ago)

Need help with "Help"!!! -- Att.: Sven

Hi,

On Wed, 2009-02-25 at 21:37 -0500, Rlt46gem@aol.com wrote:

I am using Windows XL.
I am using GIMP 2.6.0.

Please update to GIMP 2.6.5 then. It is actually quite rude to waste other people's time like this. You are using an outdated version and should have updated to the latest stable release before asking. That would have saved all of us a lot of time.

And please stop sending HTML mails to this list. Other people are on dial-up connections just as you and you are wasting their bandwidth. Please respect the rules of this list as explained at http://gimp.org/mail_lists.html

And please stop changing the subject, you are breaking threading.

Sven

Rlt46gem@aol.com
2009-02-26 22:12:09 UTC (almost 16 years ago)

Need help with "Help"!!! -- Att.: Sven

Please update to GIMP 2.6.5 then. It is actually quite rude to waste

other people's time like this. You are using an outdated version and should have updated to the latest stable release before asking. That would have saved all of us a lot of time.
1. Please try asking me what I have/have not done before jumping to conclusions. I have tried several (more than 3) times to download 2.6.5. I when I try to install I get the message that it is invalid or corrupt. If you can send me a workable solution, please do. If you cannot, please refrain from making any more snotty "blame and shame" comments. YOU are wasting everyone's time by using this forum to work your own arrogant agenda. Your last post was rude. This post is deliberately mean spirited and hateful.

And please stop sending HTML mails to this list. Other people are on

dial-up connections just as you and you are wasting their bandwidth.

2. Mea culpa. I do not know the definition of "html", but I have removed my signature if that makes you feel better. 3. A computer expert told me years ago that bandwidth has not been a relevant issue since the old 486s.

Please respect the rules of this list as explained at

_http://gimp.org/mail_lists.html_ (http://gimp.org/mail_lists.html)
4. I found it interesting that nowhere in the rules is there a request for everyone to respect the other list members and be courteous and polite

And please stop changing the subject, you are breaking threading.

Sven <<<

5. Ooooooooh, nooooooooooo............. now I am a dreaded Thread Breaker!!! Whatever shall I do? I don't think I can live with myself.
All snide remarks aside... I am on digest. Digest does not recognize threads. When I respond it is to the digest address and I have no control over where it goes from there. If you can't cope with the highly technical advancements like digests, don't take it out on the rest of us.

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Chris Mohler
2009-02-26 22:26:19 UTC (almost 16 years ago)

Need help with "Help"!!! -- Att.: Sven

On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 3:12 PM, wrote: [...]

All snide remarks aside...

Just my opinion, but you should lighten up a bit. Sven is an active developer of GIMP, and if you go through the archives, there are a lot of people who post unanswerable/unintelligble questions on this list. I would guess he's more "exasperated" than "arrogant" - but then again we've never met ;)

You should definitely contact the people who are distributing the 2.6.5 OSX binary and ask about the corruption - it's always best to use the latest stable version if possible, esp. when trying to track down a bug/issue.

The HTML and thread-breaking are indeed a bit annoying - and you will find that other mailing lists will make the same requests of you.

Again - just my humble opinion.

Chris

Michael Schumacher
2009-02-26 22:35:58 UTC (almost 16 years ago)

Need help with "Help"!!! -- Att.: Sven

Rlt46gem@aol.com wrote:

5. Ooooooooh, nooooooooooo............. now I am a dreaded Thread Breaker!!! Whatever shall I do? I don't think I can live with myself.

Please do read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Thanks.

Michael

Jernej Simon?i?
2009-02-26 22:47:48 UTC (almost 16 years ago)

Need help with "Help"!!! -- Att.: Sven

On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 16:12:09 EST, Rlt46gem@aol.com wrote:

1. Please try asking me what I have/have not done before jumping to conclusions. I have tried several (more than 3) times to download 2.6.5. I when I try to install I get the message that it is invalid or corrupt.

Try another download mirror, or complain to your ISP. There have been 180.000 downloads of GIMP 2.6.5 Windows installer so far (according to SourceForge), and I haven't received any complaints.

2. Mea culpa. I do not know the definition of "html", but I have removed my signature if that makes you feel better.

Configure your client to send messages in plain text format. Just removing styles isn't enough.

3. A computer expert told me years ago that bandwidth has not been a relevant issue since the old 486s.

It's a problem because your client specifies black as the text colour, but doesn't specify background colour, which on my configuration makes your messages unreadable (I have black background). This doesn't happen with plain text messages.

Also, please quote normally (prefix all quoted lines with a single > character - that makes it much clearer which part of the message is a quote, and what's your answer).

And if you have time to complain about adverts inserted in your signature, at least put a signature delimiter (dash-dash-space) above them - this'll hide them from most decent clients.

5. Ooooooooh, nooooooooooo............. now I am a dreaded Thread Breaker!!! Whatever shall I do? I don't think I can live with myself.

Just because your client is so primitive that it doesn't know how to thread messages doesn't mean that you should ruin threading for everybody. Take a look here to see how threading looks (and how you're breaking it):

All snide remarks aside... I am on digest. Digest does not recognize threads. When I respond it is to the digest address and I have no control over where it goes from there. If you can't cope with the highly technical advancements like digests, don't take it out on the rest of us.

Digests shouldn't be used for anything but reading - but even with digests, there shouldn't be too many problems as long as you don't change the subject on every post.