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Fwd: Gimp start - empty window - old toolbar Jochen Cichon 11 Feb 09:53
  Fwd: Gimp start - empty window - old toolbar norman 11 Feb 10:14
   Fwd: Gimp start - empty window - old toolbar Alec Burgess 11 Feb 10:54
    Fwd: Gimp start - empty window - old toolbar norman 11 Feb 15:20
     Fwd: Gimp start - empty window - old toolbar Jochen Cichon 13 Feb 08:13
  Fwd: Gimp start - empty window - old toolbar David Gowers 11 Feb 10:15
   Fwd: Gimp start - empty window - old toolbar norman 11 Feb 10:45
    Fwd: Gimp start - empty window - old toolbar David Gowers 11 Feb 11:17
    Fwd: Gimp start - empty window - old toolbar Michael Schumacher 11 Feb 11:18
Jochen Cichon
2009-02-11 09:53:22 UTC (almost 16 years ago)

Fwd: Gimp start - empty window - old toolbar

Hi,

am sorry for posting this, because the NEW feature to have an empty window is maybe very nice...

But how can I get back the old layout?!

So only the toolbox (with menu) without that anoying emtpy window... ;)

Sri for that folks... but most times I have the toolbox on my screen, and just drag/drop some images into it to edit them. (so afterwards just close the window...) Actually I close that empty window and gimp will close also... ;(

ps: hopefully there will be a way to bring that back via config, [ ] only open toolbar... or something

Thanks,

norman
2009-02-11 10:14:36 UTC (almost 16 years ago)

Fwd: Gimp start - empty window - old toolbar

am sorry for posting this, because the NEW feature to have an empty window is maybe very nice...

But how can I get back the old layout?!

So only the toolbox (with menu) without that anoying emtpy window... ;)

Sri for that folks... but most times I have the toolbox on my screen, and just drag/drop some images into it to edit them. (so afterwards just close the window...) Actually I close that empty window and gimp will close also... ;(

ps: hopefully there will be a way to bring that back via config, [ ] only open toolbar... or something

There is a way to do this because I have done it. Unfortunately, I have forgotten how but I am sure that Rolf Steinort at www.meetthegimp.org would know the answer.

Norman

David Gowers
2009-02-11 10:15:34 UTC (almost 16 years ago)

Fwd: Gimp start - empty window - old toolbar

Hello!

On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 7:23 PM, Jochen Cichon wrote:

Hi,

am sorry for posting this, because the NEW feature to have an empty window is maybe very nice...

But how can I get back the old layout?!

So only the toolbox (with menu) without that anoying emtpy window... ;)

Sri for that folks... but most times I have the toolbox on my screen, and just drag/drop some images into it to edit them. (so afterwards just close the window...) Actually I close that empty window and gimp will close also... ;(

That's right.
I don't see the problem, though; you can still do just the same thing. open images, work, close images, open images, work, close images..

ps: hopefully there will be a way to bring that back via config, [ ] only open toolbar... or something

The only way to do that is to downgrade to 2.4. There is no option (nor will there be an option added in the foreseeable future)

David

norman
2009-02-11 10:45:55 UTC (almost 16 years ago)

Fwd: Gimp start - empty window - old toolbar

< snip >

That's right.
I don't see the problem, though; you can still do just the same thing. open images, work, close images, open images, work, close images..

Are you sure that this is correct? I am convinced that I use the latest Gimp with Ubuntu 8.10 and that I do not have the window referred to. I do not wish to start an argument but I am almost certain that Rolf Steinort, in one of his videos, explained how to get rid of the window. I will try to find the time to search it out.

Norman

Alec Burgess
2009-02-11 10:54:29 UTC (almost 16 years ago)

Fwd: Gimp start - empty window - old toolbar

norman (norman@littletank.org) wrote (in part) (on 2009-02-11 at 04:14):

am sorry for posting this, because the NEW feature to have an empty

> > window is maybe very nice...
> >
> > But how can I get back the old layout?! > >
> > So only the toolbox (with menu) without that anoying emtpy window... ;)
> >
> > Sri for that folks... but most times I have the toolbox on my screen,
> > and just drag/drop some images into it to edit them. > > (so afterwards just close the window...) > > Actually I close that empty window and gimp will close also... ;( > >
> > ps: hopefully there will be a way to bring that back via config, > > [ ] only open toolbar... or something

There is a way to do this because I have done it. Unfortunately, I have
forgotten how but I am sure that Rolf Steinort at www.meetthegimp.org would know the answer.

Are you talking about adding the line: (toolbox-wilber no)
to gimprc, normally at (in Windows XP) C:\Documents and Settings\{username}\.gimp-2.6\gimprc

This suppresses Wilbur drop-area at the top of the toolbox - not needed because the entire icons area in the toolbox is a drop-area?

However, this does not suppress the empty-image-window.

David Gowers
2009-02-11 11:17:36 UTC (almost 16 years ago)

Fwd: Gimp start - empty window - old toolbar

Hi,

On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 8:15 PM, norman wrote:

< snip >

That's right.
I don't see the problem, though; you can still do just the same thing. open images, work, close images, open images, work, close images..

Are you sure that this is correct?

I am convinced that I use the latest Gimp with Ubuntu 8.10 and that I do not have the window referred to.

Well, you probably have 2.6.1, and I'm convinced myself that there is no way for you to not have this window. (there is actually one way, which is complicated and involves autodetecting 'no-image-window' and hiding it when it exists. I guess if someone is desperate enough, they could try that 9_9)

I
do not wish to start an argument but I am almost certain that Rolf Steinort, in one of his videos, explained how to get rid of the window.

I'm completely certain that he explained how to do something that gives the illusion of this (but doesn't actually change anything much), I recall it was basically just a way to have the toolbox and docks over the image window (which struck me as cute but of no particular advantage) ; And I'm equally sure that the 'empty-image-window' is always the toplevel GIMP window (meaning if you close it, you are closing GIMP) and this isn't optional.

Mainly because I've been subscribed to and paying attention to the gimp-developer mailing list for a long time, and also, while the 'transient-docks' option was introduced in 2.4 (maybe this is what you are thinking of), no new gimprc options were introduced in 2.6, other than the one Alec mentioned (according to the results of 'grep -r -e gimprc -i ChangeLog.pre-2-6 -C 3 |less')

IIRC people have already asked for the ability to change this, and received very definite responses along the lines of 'no way, not going to happen.'.

David

Michael Schumacher
2009-02-11 11:18:39 UTC (almost 16 years ago)

Fwd: Gimp start - empty window - old toolbar

Von: norman

I do not wish to start an argument but I am almost certain that Rolf Steinort, in one of his videos, explained how to get rid of the window. I will try to find the time to search it out.

Size and position of the no-image-open window is saved across sessions.

HTH, Michael

norman
2009-02-11 15:20:57 UTC (almost 16 years ago)

Fwd: Gimp start - empty window - old toolbar

< snip >

Are you talking about adding the line: (toolbox-wilber no)
to gimprc, normally at (in Windows XP) C:\Documents and Settings \{username}\.gimp-2.6\gimprc

This suppresses Wilbur drop-area at the top of the toolbox - not needed because the entire icons area in the toolbox is a drop-area?

That is exactly what I meant, thanks.

However, this does not suppress the empty-image-window

That is true, but, if I recall correctly, there always was an empty-image-window.

Norman

Jochen Cichon
2009-02-13 08:13:20 UTC (almost 16 years ago)

Fwd: Gimp start - empty window - old toolbar

norman wrote:

However, this does not suppress the empty-image-window

That is true, but, if I recall correctly, there always was an empty-image-window.

Norman

Hm, I'm not 100% sure when it was introduced.. but 2.6 has it, and 2.4 I'm unsure.

But 2.2 def. does not open an empty window.