On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 01:44:30PM +0530, Nicholas I wrote:

Hi,

I am using ubuntu os, how do i upgrade my gimp to the new version 2.6.

I tried using the apt-get install gimp by referring the documentation, but did not work, it still gets the older version.

any help ?

Which version of Ubuntu are you using? 8.10 has 2.6 included in it

If you are using 8.04, it is probably not possible to upgrade due to updated dependencies

Hello Nicholas,

On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 7:04 PM, Nicholas I wrote:

Hi,

I am using 8.04, is there any other so that i can work with 2.6. will it work if i edit the /etc/apt/source.list...?

There probably is an appropriate repository that someone is providing with the required dependencies.
I don't know where to find it, though.

David

Hi,

I am using 8.04, is there any other so that i can work with 2.6. will it
work if i edit the /etc/apt/source.list...?

Yes,

Download the source and read the INSTALL for instructions.

Off the top of my head you will at least babl and gegl which may well install from a deb

Otherwise you may have to build them yourself, babl first and then gegl, last time I tried, gegl needed building with with ./configure --disable-docs

you will need an updated glib, pango, atk I think, and finally gtk

build them with ./configure --prefix=/opt and make sure you set the environment variables for your build as follows:

export LD_LIBRARY_PATH="/opt/lib:/usr/lib" export PKG_CONFIG_PATH="/opt/lib/pkgconfig:/usr/lib/pkgconfig" export ACLOCAL_FLAGS="-I /opt/share/aclocal"

Comeback if you run into troubles.

Just watch configure, it will give you all the bad news :-)

Owen

Owen wrote:

Off the top of my head you will at least babl and gegl which may well install from a deb

Otherwise you may have to build them yourself, babl first and then gegl, last time I tried, gegl needed building with with ./configure --disable-docs

you will need an updated glib, pango, atk I think, and finally gtk

build them with ./configure --prefix=/opt and make sure you set the environment variables for your build as follows:

export LD_LIBRARY_PATH="/opt/lib:/usr/lib" export PKG_CONFIG_PATH="/opt/lib/pkgconfig:/usr/lib/pkgconfig" export ACLOCAL_FLAGS="-I /opt/share/aclocal"

I tried this myself, but found it very difficult. IMHO, the easiest way would be to upgrade to Ubuntu 8.10. Then you have all the latest libraries installed.

HTH,

Claus

On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 10:08:04 +0100, Claus Cyrny wrote:

I tried this myself, but found it very difficult. IMHO, the easiest way would be to upgrade to Ubuntu 8.10. Then you have all the latest libraries installed.

And then when GIMP goes to 2.7+ will have to upgrade also the OS to Ubuntu 8.20+/whatever ?

Cristi

On Friday 16 January 2009, Cristian Secar? wrote:

And then when GIMP goes to 2.7+ will have to upgrade also the OS to Ubuntu 8.20+/whatever ?

First of all, there will be no stable GIMP 2.7, since odd minor version numbers are reserved for development releases.

Second, all complaints about some version of GIMP not being available on some operating system or distribution should go to the maintainers of that distribution, since the only official product released by the GIMP developers is the source code. It's totally up to the distributions to provide binaries, in whichever version they see fit.

I hope this helped to answer some questions.

Daniel

Certainly :-)
Cheers and keep the good work

Daniel Hornung wrote:

On Friday 16 January 2009, Cristian Secar? wrote:

And then when GIMP goes to 2.7+ will have to upgrade also the OS to Ubuntu 8.20+/whatever ?

First of all, there will be no stable GIMP 2.7, since odd minor version numbers are reserved for development releases.

Second, all complaints about some version of GIMP not being available on some operating system or distribution should go to the maintainers of that distribution, since the only official product released by the GIMP developers is the source code. It's totally up to the distributions to provide binaries, in whichever version they see fit.

I hope this helped to answer some questions.

Daniel
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---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Mark J. Reed"
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 09:14:33 -0500 Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp latest version To: Cristian Secar? , Claus Cyrny

its not the Gimp team's job to package things. If you let Ubuntu do it for you, then you have to accept the limitations that come with that.
There are instructions on the web for getting gimp 2.6 to run on 8.04 without compiling it yourself, but you have to uninstall and reinstall vast swaths of the desktop gui. Why not just upgrade to 8.10? Gimp is what motivated me to do that, and it was pretty darn painless. Btw, the Ubuntu releases are Year.Month, so there can't be an 8.20. The next release will be a 9.something.

On 1/16/09, Cristian Secar? wrote:

On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 10:08:04 +0100, Claus Cyrny wrote:

I tried this myself, but found it very difficult. IMHO, the easiest way would be to upgrade to Ubuntu 8.10. Then you have all the latest libraries installed.

And then when GIMP goes to 2.7+ will have to upgrade also the OS to Ubuntu 8.20+/whatever ?

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There probably is an appropriate repository that someone is providing with the required dependencies.
I don't know where to find it, though.

Maybe http://www.getdeb.net/app/Gimp is useful as there are Hardy (8.04) packages for GIMP 2.6.2

On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 09:17:53 -0500, Mark J. Reed wrote:

its not the Gimp team's job to package things.

Of course it is not.

My comment was related to „the easiest way would be to upgrade to Ubuntu 8.10” statement, given as a solution to be able to use a newer version of an application (no matter which). This is something I consider to be exaggerated.

Cristi

On Friday 16 January 2009 21:52:41 Cristian Secar? wrote:

My comment was related to „the easiest way would be to upgrade to Ubuntu 8.10” statement, given as a solution to be able to use a newer version of an application (no matter which). This is something I consider to be exaggerated.

depends. it took me several hours to install GIMP 2.6.4 on openSUSE 11.0, because upto now the OS repositories offer GIMP 2.4 librariies only. had to install a bunch of dependencies, compile some of them, and change libraries that openSUSE was using by default.

if the latest (stable) GIMP version is supported in a newer version of ubuntu, it seems to make more sense to spend the time upgrading to that OS version, since most likely that will be done sooner or later anyway, than fiddling around with dependencies in the older OS version...

phani.

Von: "Richard H."

There probably is an appropriate repository that someone is providing with the required dependencies.
I don't know where to find it, though.

Maybe http://www.getdeb.net/app/Gimp is useful as there are Hardy (8.04) packages for GIMP 2.6.2

Someone should tell getdeb that their site lacks the dependency listings found on e.g. packages.debian.org. Seems that some people think that installing just the gimp debs is enough.

Michael

On Friday 16 January 2009 11:42:42 am phanisvara das wrote:

On Friday 16 January 2009 21:52:41 Cristian Secar? wrote:

My comment was related to „the easiest way would be to upgrade to Ubuntu 8.10” statement, given as a solution to be able to use a newer version of an application (no matter which). This is something I consider to be exaggerated.

depends. it took me several hours to install GIMP 2.6.4 on openSUSE 11.0, because upto now the OS repositories offer GIMP 2.4 librariies only. had to install a bunch of dependencies, compile some of them, and change libraries that openSUSE was using by default.

if the latest (stable) GIMP version is supported in a newer version of ubuntu, it seems to make more sense to spend the time upgrading to that OS version, since most likely that will be done sooner or later anyway, than fiddling around with dependencies in the older OS version...

phani.

I live in a Slackware world and not a Debian world. To use 2.6.x Gimp means installing gegl and to install gegl requires that one install babl. I have tried various editions of gegl, from 0,18 to 0.22 and svn. They give me the same error:
In file included from gegl-tile-backend-tiledir.c:26: gegl-tile-backend.h:39: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list before 'Babl'
gegl-tile-backend-tiledir.c: In function 'gio_entry_read': gegl-tile-backend-tiledir.c:76: error: 'GeglTileBackend' has no member named 'tile_size'
gegl-tile-backend-tiledir.c: In function 'gio_entry_write': So now I assume the problem lies in babl. I will have to experiment with various versions of babl until I find one that works with gegl, and then find a version of gegl that works with Gimp 2.6.4.

If the Gimp source distro contained a compatible version of gegl and babl then compiling from source would be a lot easier. Now my only other choice is to install Ubuntu or whatever on another partition and see if they have an updated binary Gimp available. That is a lot of work and a lot of time also.

On Saturday 31 January 2009, John Culleton wrote:

If the Gimp source distro contained a compatible version of gegl and babl then compiling from source would be a lot easier. Now my only other choice is to install Ubuntu or whatever on another partition and see if they have an updated binary Gimp available. That is a lot of work and a lot of time also.

The latest stable versions should do, 0.0.22 for both babl and gegl.

Daniel