GIMP WebAccess via ajax-webinterface
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| GIMP WebAccess via ajax-webinterface | anybody | 23 Dec 01:50 |
| GIMP WebAccess via ajax-webinterface | Øyvind Kolås | 23 Dec 14:45 |
| GIMP WebAccess via ajax-webinterface | radar.map35@free.fr | 23 Dec 22:20 |
| GIMP WebAccess via ajax-webinterface | Øyvind Kolås | 23 Dec 22:50 |
| GIMP WebAccess via ajax-webinterface | Liam R E Quin | 24 Dec 04:23 |
GIMP WebAccess via ajax-webinterface
Hello dear honored, hard working developing gurus,
I recently heard much noise about, Online-Versions of Photoshop and OpenOffice.org and Services like SplashUP and FotoFlexer.
Let me explain: You guys are doing a hard and not very well paid job. But the thing is not about money, it is about attention. How would people react if they found out that they had not to pay Adobe or guys like them a nice amount of XX$ for every little extra service, of what ordinary users could want to do with PS OnlineAccess.
I propose you, that if you have great stuff to offer via Python or other tool-sets, you could impress many people with (open) services on which other people would be able to contribute functions and could have the same functionality for much less than the whole money seeking industry does want to.
and explain further:
I am an Internet programmer and developer, but I am not as good as I want to be because of a resource problem. But I am looking for a long while onto the WWW platform and its technologies. AJAX with GEGL and some sort of a rich Internet Client could provide amazing contents to the open and free source community.
http://www.gimp.org/webaccess or http://www.gimp.org/webedit could be some reasonable URI's If I had more time to spend, then I could provide to you a sketch solution for my visions.
I am really looking forward to an answer of you, encouraging my little thoughts.
Yours faithfully, Andreas P.
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GIMP WebAccess via ajax-webinterface
On Dec 23, 2007 12:50 AM, anybody wrote:
I am an Internet programmer and developer, but I am not as good as I want to be because of a resource problem. But I am looking for a long while onto the WWW platform and its technologies. AJAX with GEGL and some sort of a rich Internet Client could provide amazing contents to the open and free source community.
GEGL is designed with such developments in mind, and would already be easily adaptable to provide changing images in a tiled manner with micro updates, scaled down versions and other efficient communications of updates to the changed image.
Hosting such a solution is a completely different thing though, since both bandwidth and disk space are needed for the imagery, as well as not insignificant processing power on the server side. Running such a service will also require resources for administration.
I'm not saying that a web hosted image manipulation/processing/compositing application is in any way unfeasible on top of GEGL. Thoughts have been put into making the design fit such scenarios as well in the process of making it versatile. If a web server front-end shows up (which would need someone interested in creating such a thing in the first place) I doubt it would be hosted as a free service due to the much larger overhead of keeping something like that going rather than allowing downloads.
/Øyvind K.
GIMP WebAccess via ajax-webinterface
Hi
I'm not saying that a web hosted image manipulation/processing/compositing application is in any way unfeasible on top of GEGL. Thoughts have been put into making the design fit such scenarios as well in the process of making it versatile. If a web server front-end shows up (which would need someone interested in creating such a thing in the first place) I doubt it would be hosted as a free service due to the much larger overhead of keeping something like that going rather than allowing downloads.
May be this could be provided by several server as a test. Main
gimp.org/xxx could only redirect on these servers to tka the best
benefits of several ressources.
I'm not administrator but i have a server on which i could put this
solution for tests, and then see.
pygmee
GIMP WebAccess via ajax-webinterface
On Dec 23, 2007 9:20 PM, radar.map35@free.fr wrote:
I'm not saying that a web hosted image someone interested in creating such a thing in the first place) I doubt it would be hosted as a free service due to the much larger overhead of keeping something like that going rather than allowing downloads.
May be this could be provided by several server as a test. Main gimp.org/xxx could only redirect on these servers to tka the best benefits of several ressources.
I'm not administrator but i have a server on which i could put this solution for tests, and then see.
Per simultaneous user using the service I expect that you would have to donate ~1ghz of processing power, 256mb of memory and a couple of gigs of swap space.
But do note, I do not see this as a direction it is likely the current set of GIMP/GEGL developers neither should nor have strong desires to be directing development efforts, thus even thinking about gathering resources for a non existent vapour project is extremely premature.
If someone has real plans for a system using AJAX or an other form of rich client image manipulation/processing application, I'd suggest they'd outline a road map or general plan for what they'd want to achieve and I'll be willing to comment on it on the GEGL-development mailing list. On the GEGL mailing list I'd outline what bits might be missing in GEGL to achieve the goals as well as give some feedback on the feasibility of the concrete plans.
/Øyvind K.
GIMP WebAccess via ajax-webinterface
On Sun, 2007-12-23 at 21:50 +0000, Øyvind Kolås wrote: [...]
Per simultaneous user using the service I expect that you would have to donate ~1ghz of processing power, 256mb of memory and a couple of gigs of swap space.
Makes sense to me. I had to remove "unsharp mask" from my "wallpaperify" experiment -- see e.g. http://www.fromoldbooks.org/Wallpaperify/?src=OmanCastles&img=160-Skenfrith-Castle-q75-500x375.jpg
And that's with just thumbnails -- I quickly had a load average of over 120 on the server.
Liam
