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RC3 strange logic of monitor profile use if Windows hasn't profile assigned and checkbox is checked

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Alexander Rabtchevich
2007-09-25 13:45:25 UTC (about 17 years ago)

RC3 strange logic of monitor profile use if Windows hasn't profile assigned and checkbox is checked

I've installed 2.4RC3 and found a strange logic of monitor profile use. I had my monitor profile assigned in RC2 and had no system-wide assigned profile. So I deinstalled RC2, installed RC3 and found out GIMP was not using monitor profile despite the fact it remained assigned in the drop down list. The things changed when I had unchecked the checkbox "Try to use system color profile".

I guess it is the wrong logic. If the checkbox is checked, GIMP should search for system assigned profile and if it exists, use it regardless the profile which has been selected in GIMP combobox. But if no system profile exists, GIMP should use its own selected profile. Even the checkbox label says "Try to use...", not "Use". This is logical and convenient.
And if system profile is used, it should be shown somewhere in the color management dialog by adding system profile to the combobox and selecting it.

Sven Neumann
2007-09-25 17:19:33 UTC (about 17 years ago)

RC3 strange logic of monitor profile use if Windows hasn't profile assigned and checkbox is checked

Hi,

On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 14:45 +0300, Alexander Rabtchevich wrote:

I've installed 2.4RC3 and found a strange logic of monitor profile use. I had my monitor profile assigned in RC2 and had no system-wide assigned profile. So I deinstalled RC2, installed RC3 and found out GIMP was not using monitor profile despite the fact it remained assigned in the drop down list. The things changed when I had unchecked the checkbox "Try to use system color profile".

I guess it is the wrong logic. If the checkbox is checked, GIMP should search for system assigned profile and if it exists, use it regardless the profile which has been selected in GIMP combobox. But if no system profile exists, GIMP should use its own selected profile. Even the checkbox label says "Try to use...", not "Use". This is logical and convenient.

This is what the code does (or is supposed to do).

Sven

Yoshinori Yamakawa
2007-09-26 14:41:20 UTC (about 17 years ago)

RC3 strange logic of monitor profile use if Windows hasn't profile assigned and checkbox is checked

Alexander Rabtchevich wrote:

I've installed 2.4RC3 and found a strange logic of monitor profile use. I had my monitor profile assigned in RC2 and had no system-wide assigned profile. So I deinstalled RC2, installed RC3 and found out GIMP was not using monitor profile despite the fact it remained assigned in the drop down list. The things changed when I had unchecked the checkbox "Try to use system color profile".

I guess it is the wrong logic. If the checkbox is checked, GIMP should search for system assigned profile and if it exists, use it regardless the profile which has been selected in GIMP combobox. But if no system profile exists, GIMP should use its own selected profile. Even the checkbox label says "Try to use...", not "Use". This is logical and convenient.
And if system profile is used, it should be shown somewhere in the color management dialog by adding system profile to the combobox and selecting it.

Alexander Rabtchevich
2007-09-26 14:54:43 UTC (about 17 years ago)

RC3 strange logic of monitor profile use if Windows hasn't profile assigned and checkbox is checked

Yoshinori Yamakawa wrote:

- Using the GIMP on Windows:

If the system-wide monitor profile is not specified, Windows will present the path of "sRGB Color Space Profile.icm". Therefore, the GIMP can't understand that the profile have not been specified.

Nice to hear. But this is just the behavior I described. Despite the fact it works as designed the logic is wrong - the

sRGB Color Space Profile.icm does not differ from sRGB GIMP uses by default and is not the particular monitor profile. So this profile should be handled as a profile, absent from system.

Sven Neumann
2007-09-26 20:05:36 UTC (about 17 years ago)

RC3 strange logic of monitor profile use if Windows hasn't profile assigned and checkbox is checked

Hi,

On Wed, 2007-09-26 at 05:41 -0700, Yoshinori Yamakawa wrote:

Inside the GIMP, the color profiles are managed by the file paths. But the X server provides the contents of the monitor profile. Some fixes might be needed to list that profile in the combo box.

I don't think the profile should be listed there. If you want to check which monitor profile is used, you can do that in the lcms display filter dialog.

Sven