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crop isn't stopped at image borders

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crop isn't stopped at image borders Alexander Rabtchevich 19 Jun 12:38
  crop isn't stopped at image borders Thorsten Wilms 19 Jun 12:53
   crop isn't stopped at image borders Alexandre Prokoudine 19 Jun 13:02
   crop isn't stopped at image borders Alexander Rabtchevich 19 Jun 13:12
    crop isn't stopped at image borders Alexander Rabtchevich 19 Jun 13:16
    crop isn't stopped at image borders peter sikking 19 Jun 14:36
Alexander Rabtchevich
2007-06-19 12:38:06 UTC (over 17 years ago)

crop isn't stopped at image borders

In GIMP 2.3.18 crop tool isn't stopped at image borders as it was in 2.3.14. It is a bug: if ratio is set it is violated by this. And even if no ratio is set crop should not affect pixels outside the image.

Thorsten Wilms
2007-06-19 12:53:06 UTC (over 17 years ago)

crop isn't stopped at image borders

On Tue, Jun 19, 2007 at 01:38:06PM +0300, Alexander Rabtchevich wrote:

In GIMP 2.3.18 crop tool isn't stopped at image borders as it was in 2.3.14. It is a bug: if ratio is set it is violated by this. And even if no ratio is set crop should not affect pixels outside the image.

Do you mean the ratio is not correctly applied if the cropping rectangle leaves the image borders, and only then?

I disagree on the last sentence. While limiting crop to within the image borders is convenient in many cases, being able to freely change the canvas size for a layer or image is useful, too. I mean to recall it's in fact an option in the last stable release.

Alexandre Prokoudine
2007-06-19 13:02:49 UTC (over 17 years ago)

crop isn't stopped at image borders

On 6/19/07, Thorsten Wilms wrote:

I disagree on the last sentence. While limiting crop to within the image borders is convenient in many cases, being able to freely change the canvas size for a layer or image is useful, too. I mean to recall it's in fact an option in the last stable release.

From what I remember current Crop Tool is not finished yet and doesn't

fully correspond to specification provided by Peter Sikking.

Alexandre

Alexander Rabtchevich
2007-06-19 13:12:42 UTC (over 17 years ago)

crop isn't stopped at image borders

Thorsten Wilms wrote:

On Tue, Jun 19, 2007 at 01:38:06PM +0300, Alexander Rabtchevich wrote:

In GIMP 2.3.18 crop tool isn't stopped at image borders as it was in 2.3.14. It is a bug: if ratio is set it is violated by this. And even if no ratio is set crop should not affect pixels outside the image.

Do you mean the ratio is not correctly applied if the cropping rectangle leaves the image borders, and only then?

There are different cases.

1. I use fixed ratio. If the crop window leaves image borders, the ratio is violated.
2. I use fixed crop window dimensions. When touching the edge of an image the mouse is still moving, the crop window isn't crossing the edge and the preset window size is violated.

I disagree on the last sentence. While limiting crop to within the image borders is convenient in many cases, being able to freely change the canvas size for a layer or image is useful, too. I mean to recall it's in fact an option in the last stable release.

I would prefer to have this feature switchable with a checkbox (and I'll set it not to cross edges at least most of the time). I'll ground it. When one is processing images for further printing, cropping is framing. And the result _should_ have defined ratio. If one is moving crop window within an image, looking if it has crossed the borders and violated the resulting ratio is a waste of time and work.

Alexander Rabtchevich
2007-06-19 13:16:44 UTC (over 17 years ago)

crop isn't stopped at image borders

There is _cropping_ and _cropping_and_changing_canvas_size_. Pure cropping means the result is taken within an image, not outside it.

Alexander Rabtchevich wrote:

I would prefer to have this feature switchable with a checkbox (and I'll set it not to cross edges at least most of the time). I'll ground it. When one is processing images for further printing, cropping is framing. And the result _should_ have defined ratio. If one is moving crop window within an image, looking if it has crossed the borders and violated the resulting ratio is a waste of time and work.

peter sikking
2007-06-19 14:36:28 UTC (over 17 years ago)

crop isn't stopped at image borders

Alexander,

I have read your concerns and can tell you that at the end GIMP will work as you like to.

I would prefer to have this feature switchable with a checkbox

the development of the tools is not finished.

I have to move first here, updating the spec of this feature and filling in some holes, thus giving developers an easier time and encourage implementation.

--ps

principal user interaction architect man + machine interface works

http://mmiworks.net/blog : on interaction architecture