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Looking for applications for this math idea Ben Thurston 27 Feb 20:56
  Looking for applications for this math idea Ben Thurston 27 Feb 20:56
   Looking for applications for this math idea Ben Thurston 27 Feb 21:09
    Looking for applications for this math idea Nathan Summers 28 Feb 04:29
     Looking for applications for this math idea Bill Skaggs 28 Feb 13:54
      Looking for applications for this math idea Nathan Summers 28 Feb 16:03
      Looking for applications for this math idea jcupitt@gmail.com 28 Feb 16:37
Ben Thurston
2015-02-27 20:56:23 UTC (over 9 years ago)

Looking for applications for this math idea

I developed this type of function that I feel is sort of like the statistical analogue of the Fourrier series, it breaks a distribution up into simple normal distribution components as the Fourrier series breaks a wave into simple sine wave components. I thought maybe there could be an application for it in image processing but I don't know enough about image processing to figure out how it would apply... Anyone have any ideas?

Ben Thurston
2015-02-27 20:56:56 UTC (over 9 years ago)

Looking for applications for this math idea

Sorry of course you need the link: http://benpaulthurstonblog.blogspot.com/2015/02/supposing-you-have-process-that-reaches.html

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Ben Thurston wrote:

I developed this type of function that I feel is sort of like the statistical analogue of the Fourrier series, it breaks a distribution up into simple normal distribution components as the Fourrier series breaks a wave into simple sine wave components. I thought maybe there could be an application for it in image processing but I don't know enough about image processing to figure out how it would apply... Anyone have any ideas?

Ben Thurston
2015-02-27 21:09:41 UTC (over 9 years ago)

Looking for applications for this math idea

Well I guess I should add that it also interpolates the known points of a distribution...

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Ben Thurston wrote:

Sorry of course you need the link:

http://benpaulthurstonblog.blogspot.com/2015/02/supposing-you-have-process-that-reaches.html

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Ben Thurston wrote:

I developed this type of function that I feel is sort of like the statistical analogue of the Fourrier series, it breaks a distribution up into simple normal distribution components as the Fourrier series breaks a wave into simple sine wave components. I thought maybe there could be an application for it in image processing but I don't know enough about image processing to figure out how it would apply... Anyone have any ideas?

Nathan Summers
2015-02-28 04:29:59 UTC (over 9 years ago)

Looking for applications for this math idea

The first thing that comes to mind is that it might be a good method for resizing images.

Rockwalrus

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015, 4:10 PM Ben Thurston wrote:

Well I guess I should add that it also interpolates the known points of a distribution...

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Ben Thurston wrote:

Sorry of course you need the link:

http://benpaulthurstonblog.blogspot.com/2015/02/

supposing-you-have-process-that-reaches.html

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Ben Thurston

wrote:

I developed this type of function that I feel is sort of like the statistical analogue of the Fourrier series, it breaks a distribution up into simple normal distribution components as the Fourrier series

breaks a

wave into simple sine wave components. I thought maybe there could be an application for it in image processing but I don't know enough about

image

processing to figure out how it would apply... Anyone have any ideas?

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Bill Skaggs
2015-02-28 13:54:13 UTC (over 9 years ago)

Looking for applications for this math idea

Decomposing a distribution into Gaussians is the essence of unblurring. A good algorithm for doing that would of course be very useful, but there is an enormous literature on the topic, and the most important fact about it is that it is mathematically ill-posed. In other words, unless you add extra constraints, tiny changes in the source distribution result in very large changes in the output. (In image-processing terms, transforms of that type tend to create large artifacts.) Unless the new method has some way of handling that problem, it probably isn't going to be useful.

Bill

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 10:29 PM, Nathan Summers wrote:

The first thing that comes to mind is that it might be a good method for resizing images.

Rockwalrus

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015, 4:10 PM Ben Thurston wrote:

Well I guess I should add that it also interpolates the known points of a distribution...

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Ben Thurston

wrote:

Sorry of course you need the link:

http://benpaulthurstonblog.blogspot.com/2015/02/

supposing-you-have-process-that-reaches.html

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Ben Thurston <

benpaulthurston@gmail.com

wrote:

I developed this type of function that I feel is sort of like the statistical analogue of the Fourrier series, it breaks a distribution

up

into simple normal distribution components as the Fourrier series

breaks a

wave into simple sine wave components. I thought maybe there could be

an

application for it in image processing but I don't know enough about

image

processing to figure out how it would apply... Anyone have any ideas?

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Nathan Summers
2015-02-28 16:03:50 UTC (over 9 years ago)

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Good points.

Rockwalrus

On Sat, Feb 28, 2015, 8:54 AM Bill Skaggs wrote:

Decomposing a distribution into Gaussians is the essence of unblurring. A good algorithm for doing that would of course be very useful, but there is an enormous literature on the topic, and the most important fact about it is that it is mathematically ill-posed. In other words, unless you add extra constraints, tiny changes in the source distribution result in very large changes in the output. (In image-processing terms, transforms of that type tend to create large artifacts.) Unless the new method has some way of handling that problem, it probably isn't going to be useful.

Bill

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 10:29 PM, Nathan Summers wrote:

The first thing that comes to mind is that it might be a good method for resizing images.

Rockwalrus

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015, 4:10 PM Ben Thurston wrote:

Well I guess I should add that it also interpolates the known points

of a

distribution...

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Ben Thurston <

benpaulthurston@gmail.com

wrote:

Sorry of course you need the link:

http://benpaulthurstonblog.blogspot.com/2015/02/

supposing-you-have-process-that-reaches.html

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Ben Thurston <

benpaulthurston@gmail.com

wrote:

I developed this type of function that I feel is sort of like the statistical analogue of the Fourrier series, it breaks a

distribution

up

into simple normal distribution components as the Fourrier series

breaks a

wave into simple sine wave components. I thought maybe there could

be

an

application for it in image processing but I don't know enough about

image

processing to figure out how it would apply... Anyone have any

ideas?

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jcupitt@gmail.com
2015-02-28 16:37:50 UTC (over 9 years ago)

Looking for applications for this math idea

Denoising is another obvious application. You could perhaps do your decomposition at various points over the image surface and see if you can find some noise function that's present everywhere and that therefore comes from the sensor rather than the object.

Again, there is a huge literature and it's a difficult problem.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noise_reduction

On 28 February 2015 at 13:54, Bill Skaggs wrote:

Decomposing a distribution into Gaussians is the essence of unblurring. A good algorithm for doing that would of course be very useful, but there is an enormous literature on the topic, and the most important fact about it is that it is mathematically ill-posed. In other words, unless you add extra constraints, tiny changes in the source distribution result in very large changes in the output. (In image-processing terms, transforms of that type tend to create large artifacts.) Unless the new method has some way of handling that problem, it probably isn't going to be useful.

http://benpaulthurstonblog.blogspot.com/2015/02/

supposing-you-have-process-that-reaches.html

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Ben Thurston <

benpaulthurston@gmail.com

wrote:

I developed this type of function that I feel is sort of like the statistical analogue of the Fourrier series, it breaks a distribution

up

into simple normal distribution components as the Fourrier series

breaks a

wave into simple sine wave components. I thought maybe there could be

an

application for it in image processing but I don't know enough about

image

processing to figure out how it would apply... Anyone have any ideas?