Brush size relative to canvas size
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| Brush size relative to canvas size | Johann | 18 Oct 12:30 |
| Brush size relative to canvas size | Richard | 18 Oct 16:27 |
| 121D3BF1-227A-4728-800E-0E3... | 20 Oct 14:17 | |
| Brush size relative to canvas size | Johann | 20 Oct 11:39 |
| Brush size relative to canvas size | Joao S. O. Bueno | 20 Oct 17:49 |
| Brush size relative to canvas size | Richard | 21 Oct 03:02 |
| Brush size relative to canvas size | Johann | 23 Oct 12:19 |
| Brush size relative to canvas size | Richard | 24 Oct 15:30 |
| Brush size relative to canvas size | Alexia Death | 04 Jan 21:28 |
Brush size relative to canvas size
Hi guys,
some suggestions how to improve brushes: Brush size relative to canvas size
would be handy to have a dynamic brush size, like: if i zoom in, the brush size adapts to the canvas size and shrinks relative to the zoom factor. Vice-versa, if i zoom out, the brush size grows relative to the zoom factor.
benefit: to spend less time in (technical things) configuring the brush sizes (and more time working on our picture) a small (or big) brush would share a consistent small (or big) size relative to the canvas (zoom factor)
regards
Jo
Brush size relative to canvas size
From: jo.y.venn@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2014 14:30:24 +0200 To: gimp-developer-list@gnome.org
Subject: [Gimp-developer] Brush size relative to canvas sizeHi guys,
some suggestions how to improve brushes: Brush size relative to canvas size
would be handy to have a dynamic brush size, like: if i zoom in, the brush size adapts to the canvas size and shrinks relative to the zoom factor. Vice-versa, if i zoom out, the brush size grows relative to the zoom factor.
I imagine this could be 'easy' to implement simply by adding a new unit of measure for brush sizes: "screen pixels" (as contrasted to "image pixels"). This might not be a useful feature to have for all measurements, but for brush sizes it could indeed be a plus.
For comparison, when you make adjustments in Inkscape the Alt modifier allows you to adjust things in terms of screen pixels (using the current zoom level), and it's a handy thing to have available.
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Brush size relative to canvas size
From: jo.y.venn@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2014 14:30:24 +0200 To: gimp-developer-list@gnome.org
Subject: [Gimp-developer] Brush size relative to canvas sizeHi guys,
some suggestions how to improve brushes: Brush size relative to canvas size
would be handy to have a dynamic brush size, like: if i zoom in, the brush size adapts to the canvas size and shrinks relative to the zoom factor. Vice-versa, if i zoom out, the brush size grows relative to the zoom factor.
I imagine this could be 'easy' to implement simply by adding a new unit of measure for brush sizes: "screen pixels" (as contrasted to "image pixels"). This might not be a useful feature to have for all measurements, but for brush sizes it could indeed be a plus.
For comparison, when you make adjustments in Inkscape the Alt modifier allows you to adjust things in terms of screen pixels (using the current zoom level), and it's a handy thing to have available.
-- Stratadrake strata_ranger@hotmail.com
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Numbers may not lie, but neither do they tell the whole truth.
nice, if this feature looks relative easy to implement! I, and thats me, would suggest a check-button or something persistent to activate this feature, rather some modifier keys (maybe as a complementary function) - just to make things handier As a digital painter, i search always for new solutions to improve my work - a consistent brush size would help to speed up things, coupled with presets.
Brush size relative to canvas size
It is obvious that the current way of changing brush size is nearly unusable.
I have doubts however if your proposal would be the best way to have a better UI, or if it is just a work around for the current behavior.
Above all, just because Richard steped up with a proposed UI behavior for th e proposed feature does not mean, in any way, it would be "easy" to implement - there would need to be hacks all way down to how Units are implemented inside GIMP, and that could affect all code using units - just to star with.
Nonetheless it is way past the time we should have a decent way to deal with brush size - if Peter is around, it would be nice to hear f he could come up with some proposal on this. (I've tried suggesting alternatives in the past, but got either feedback, or feedback contrary to my suggestions)
js -> wrote:
From: jo.y.venn@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2014 14:30:24 +0200 To: gimp-developer-list@gnome.org
Subject: [Gimp-developer] Brush size relative to canvas sizeHi guys,
some suggestions how to improve brushes: Brush size relative to canvas size
would be handy to have a dynamic brush size, like: if i zoom in, the brush size adapts to the canvas size and shrinks relative to the zoom factor. Vice-versa, if i zoom out, the brush size grows relative to the zoom factor.
I imagine this could be 'easy' to implement simply by adding a new unit of measure for brush sizes: "screen pixels" (as contrasted to "image pixels"). This might not be a useful feature to have for all measurements, but for brush sizes it could indeed be a plus.
For comparison, when you make adjustments in Inkscape the Alt modifier allows you to adjust things in terms of screen pixels (using the current zoom level), and it's a handy thing to have available.
-- Stratadrake strata_ranger@hotmail.com
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Numbers may not lie, but neither do they tell the whole truth.nice, if this feature looks relative easy to implement! I, and thats me, would suggest a check-button or something persistent to activate this feature, rather some modifier keys (maybe as a complementary function) - just to make things handier As a digital painter, i search always for new solutions to improve my work - a consistent brush size would help to speed up things, coupled with presets.
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Brush size relative to canvas size
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 15:49:25 -0200 From: gwidion@gmail.com
To: jo.y.venn@gmail.com
CC: gimp-developer-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] Brush size relative to canvas size. . . Above all, just because Richard steped up with a proposed UI behavior for th e proposed feature does not mean, in any way, it would be "easy" to implement - there would need to be hacks all way down to how Units are implemented inside GIMP, and that could affect all code using units - just to star with.
js ->
Which is why I put "easy" in quotation marks :)
It's easy from a -conceptual- standpoint, but in terms of the actual code changes required ... well, I can't speak for that....
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Brush size relative to canvas size
Hi Joao,
i understand your reservation, but wait a moment! ;)
Sometimes we are a bit off, because our work consumes us, without giving much in return, I know that situations as well.
I made the experience that we have to experiment all the time to push our skills and develop a real maturity in our work, even if nobody gives us a credit for it. Lets howl with the wolves, even louder ! (german-italian quote)
As for me, i'm really happy with the current configuration UI. I affirm that its true potential comes only through if we use Gimp e-v-e-r-y day. OMGimp! :)
I have doubts however if your proposal would be the best way to have a better UI, or if it is just a work around for the current behavior.
No patchwork, only a feature to improve brush features when working under time pressure. I could use the same brush to paint a surface (zoomed out) and in the same time a detail (zoomed in) Instead to fiddle around with units, maybe we could to use Brush dynamics ? Alternatives are welcome.
Am 20.10.2014 um 19:49 schrieb Joao S. O. Bueno:
It is obvious that the current way of changing brush size is nearly unusable.
I have doubts however if your proposal would be the best way to have a better UI, or if it is just a work around for the current behavior.
Above all, just because Richard steped up with a proposed UI behavior for th e proposed feature does not mean, in any way, it would be "easy" to implement - there would need to be hacks all way down to how Units are implemented inside GIMP, and that could affect all code using units - just to star with.
Nonetheless it is way past the time we should have a decent way to deal with brush size - if Peter is around, it would be nice to hear f he could come up with some proposal on this. (I've tried suggesting alternatives in the past, but got either feedback, or feedback contrary to my suggestions)
js ->
Brush size relative to canvas size
From: jo.y.venn@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 14:19:26 +0200 To: gimp-developer-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] Brush size relative to canvas sizeInstead to fiddle around with units, maybe we could to use Brush dynamics ? Alternatives are welcome.
That's an interesting alternative, though it doesn't make much sense to just map Zoom as an input to the dynamics grid ... I don't imagine zoom being a useful value for anything other than brush size, and it's a multiplicatively inverse relationship ... but perhaps on the Size output there can be an option to control whether it is considered absolute or (screen) relative ....
-- Stratadrake
strata_ranger@hotmail.com
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Brush size relative to canvas size
The feature is in GIT now, btw.
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Richard wrote:
From: jo.y.venn@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 14:19:26 +0200 To: gimp-developer-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] Brush size relative to canvas sizeInstead to fiddle around with units, maybe we could to use Brush
dynamics ? Alternatives are welcome.
That's an interesting alternative, though it doesn't make much sense to just map Zoom as an input to the dynamics grid ... I don't imagine zoom being a useful value for anything other than brush size, and it's a multiplicatively inverse relationship ... but perhaps on the Size output there can be an option to control whether it is considered absolute or (screen) relative ....
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