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gimp-developer-list Digest, Vol 24, Issue 22

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mailman.1337.1379316890.586... 16 Sep 09:34
  gimp-developer-list Digest, Vol 24, Issue 22 Thomas W 16 Sep 09:34
Thomas W
2013-09-16 09:34:15 UTC (over 11 years ago)

gimp-developer-list Digest, Vol 24, Issue 22

Hi Jehan, Chris, Marc, list members,

Thanks for your feedback. I do feel "autocomplete" is either too intrusive or feels awkward for a "Save File" dialog, because of the degree to which it interferes with the UI/ or prompts the user with existing filenames.

in the cases you do want to overwrite, it is better to have the user

write it down

or select it by mouse, so that we prevent too fast "enter-enter-damn it was the wrong name!" consequences).

I've re-examined the Windows "Save As" file chooser and find it has an autocomplete -- but I've never noticed it as intrusive. It may be because the "Filename Input" is below the list pane & thus less visually obtrusive, and the Windows autocomplete doesn't capture/block any of my key bindings. (Enter or Alt-S).

Anyway if possible, I'd say there should be intermediate autocompletion types. Like "autocomplete folders, but not file names" (so we still help

users

to choose a folder,

I examined the GIMP "Save As" chooser more closely.

I found that Autocomplete blocks Alt-S always, and captures/blocks 'Enter' if your mouse pointer is over/ has entered the autocomplete field. The net effect of these is very disruptive to my normal expectation of how a UI should work (press Alt-S once).

It is occasionally possible for Alt-S to actually *work* to save the file from the dialog, but only in the occasional case where autocomplete hasn't popped up or has been dismissed already. Most of the time, you press it once, again, it still doesn't work & then have to mentally context-switch for a different key. Not good for work rhythm.

By comparison, the Windows autocomplete is down the bottom of the dialog -- below the filename input & away from the file list/ navigation pane -- and captures/blocks neither Alt-S nor Enter, even if you have moused over it. Several autocompletions are offered in an unobtrusive way & don't seem to be a problem.

So perhaps it is not the logical concept of "autocompletion on Save" which is invalid, perhaps it is rather the UI design & visual layout, and especially the blocking of keybindings which cause it to be a problem.

Here's how to reproduce it on Linux: Note a mysterious box in the lower right collecting your keystrokes

Version: GIMP 2.8.4 as shipped by Ubuntu.

Thanks for your report, Chris.

Regards Tom