A few moments ago I added src/toolbox/paint/dynamics.xml to the gimp-help-2 repository.
This is a first sketch. Hoping someone will correct it, add new sections etc.
I have no drawing pad or something like that so it is impossible for me to write about using it.
Of course this is not the only way of describing the dynamics. Only meant as a start point. As usual: Feel free to make changes. Kolbjoern

Den 31.10.2012 10:22, skreiv Marco Ciampa:

I hope you do not mind if I switch this tread publicly...

The right place for it.

On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 09:36:27PM +0100, Kolbjrn Stuestl wrote:

Den 30.10.2012 16:39, skreiv Marco Ciampa:

On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 10:02:13PM +0200, Kolbjrn Stuestl wrote:

A few moments ago I added src/toolbox/paint/dynamics.xml to the gimp-help-2 repository.
This is a first sketch. Hoping someone will correct it, add new sections etc.
I have no drawing pad or something like that so it is impossible for me to write about using it.
Of course this is not the only way of describing the dynamics. Only meant as a start point. As usual: Feel free to make changes. Kolbjoern

I do not understand this:

"Mostly moving to the right and moving downward the color is picked from the left side of the gradient and the other directions get the color picked from the right half of the gradient"

Not so strange. It is obviously wrong.

I'll rewrite it.

Mostly? Would you clarify this passage, please?

Sorry my english is not very good...

Looks fine to me.

Yeah grammatically but I meant a different thing so you see that I was not able to explain it clearly... so it is my fault.

In that passage I was in trouble in understanding what you actually was trying to say and not arguing on the behaviuor of the function that only accidentally works in a different manner of you was describing...

PS: very good work!

Thank you

Most of the work has been done by using the trial and error method.

I understand... and it is not an easy job...

A few found on internet. I obviously did a bad job here running too few tests on the subject.

Not your fault... there is no docs on the subject... devs expecting docs writers to be able to read sources, that means that they ask for programmers, not writers / translators...

As a consequence of your mail today I tried the color-direction dynamics again. With some different results!

Non tibi hoc soli ... ;-)

It looks like the colors are chosen not as systematically as I first found out, but at more or less by random. Or do you have another explanation? I would be grateful to know.

Please ask devs!

I'll give it a try.

As I said, this is an attempt to get other people engaged in writing this chapter. The lack of description of the dynamics is a great loss to many people using GIMP.

I perfectly agree...

Adding one of my many attempts to figure out how the color-direction works. Btw: This time I used GIMP 2.8.2 on Windows 7.

I use (almost always) GIMP under Linux :-)

Thank you for drawing my attention on this fault.

Thank you for affording this task for all us.

PS: a note on style. Every time you write " in the toolbox" I think you mean " in the tool options panel" or " in the tool option dialog", right? IHMO it is better, when in doubt, to use the more verbose but clearer form...

You are right. I'll correct it.
At the moment I have some other things to do. (There is a life outside GIMP :-) ) But I will add the corrections as soon as possible. Hoping some others writing on this subject. Someone using a drawing pad perhaps?
Kolbjoern

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Den 01.11.2012 14:11, skreiv Marco Ciampa:

On Thu, Nov 01, 2012 at 12:00:18PM +0100, Kolbjrn Stuestl wrote:

Hoping some others writing on this subject.

Well yes but I think that, in my opinion, if someone starts writing a section, as you have done here, he must be, for a limited span of time the "Linus Tornvalds" of the chapter. I mean that it could be difficoult, even with git, to merge different authors corrections so I think that this list could be helpful in posting the suggestion by the other contribuitors (as I've done)

I see your point, and of course I'll do my part of the job. But there are lots of stuff to add to the chapters. There are several unwritten parts, some pointed to by "TO DO" others just missing. These could (relative) easily be added by other writers. Moreover, I am not sure that I have found the best or right way presenting the dynamics. Some other suggestions?

Someone using a drawing pad perhaps?

That is really a plus... and I have one, bought just for testing pourpouses (a really cheap one by the european manufacturer "Trust"). I am _not_ an artist so I never used it ... if you mind I can use it to do some tests ... just ask me what I have to do and I'll try and report the results here.

Thanks.
Well, as a start: How does the pressure influences the brush in several combinations?
Kolbjoern

Kolbjoern

Many thanks for you efforts.

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Den 02.11.2012 08:11, skreiv Julien Hardelin:

Hoping some others writing on this subject.

Well yes but I think that, in my opinion, if someone starts writing a section, as you have done here, he must be, for a limited span of time the "Linus Tornvalds" of the chapter. I mean that it could be difficoult, even with git, to merge different authors corrections so I think that this list could be helpful in posting the suggestion by the other contribuitors (as I've done)

That's right. After several proofreadings of dynamics and changes almost every day in the original file, I gave up : too much difficult. I'll wait for a stable file.
In our xml files, we use spaces instead of tabs. Please check the "Replace tabs with spaces" option in your text editor : you can see the result of tabs in http://git.gnome.org/browse/gimp-help-2, which uses 8 spaces for a tab.

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Looking forward to it, Julien.
I am using Notepad++ for the writing of the xml files. I thought I remembered that the tab size should be set to 2, which I did. I will change the setting to "Replace by space" as you suggested. Using two spaces instead of tab.
I also have set the format to UTF-8 without byte order mark. Correct? Kolbjoern

Den 03.11.2012 21:05, skreiv Julien Hardelin:

I am using Notepad++ for the writing of the xml files. I thought I remembered that the tab size should be set to 2, which I did. I will change the setting to "Replace by space" as you suggested. Using two spaces instead of tab.

I also have set the format to UTF-8 without byte order mark. Correct? Kolbjoern

If the "Replace by space" option is checked, you can use tabs... UTF-8 without BOM is OK : only LF at the end of lines.

Julien

Thanks.
I like to do it the right way.
Kolbjoern