* Gfxuser [09-23-12 11:51]:

because of some neverending discussions on the mailing lists in the last time schumaml and I considered rethinking the mailing list etiquette rules. Thereto I searched the web for existing mailing list rules and found quite a lot. Because I see us as a community I decided to make a catalog of them as a groundwork for a discussion.
You find it at
http://wiki.gimp.org/index.php/Mindstorm:_Rework_of_mailing_list_rules Please have a look at it and tell your opinion on it here. The reworked selection will become the new rules.

Very good and welcomed. If observed/enforced, list traffic will be much more informative and helpful.

Secondly I think it's useful to publish these rules on new mailing list subscriptions and regularly.

Required reading for subscribing and monthly list reminders....

tks for your efforts.

On Sun, 2012-09-23 at 17:48 +0200, Gfxuser wrote:

http://wiki.gimp.org/index.php/Mindstorm:_Rework_of_mailing_list_rules

Secondly I think it's useful to publish these rules on new mailing list subscriptions and regularly.

Agree about posting list rules, and this is a really good start but I think it needs to be MUCH shorter or people won't read them.

I'd suggest try to get down to 6 or 7 short statements with links to more detail where it'd be useful.

List only the absolutes, and link to guidelines separately.

Well, maybe something really short like this:

List posting Guidelines

1. stay on topic; people are busy 2. do not attack other people
3. check bugzilla [1] before reporting problems 4. GIMP is not PhotoShop; don't assume people know other software 5. messages are to be in English and in plain text (not HTML). 6. see [2] for how to report problems 7. Thank you for being part of the GIMP commmunity.

Where 1 and 2 are links into the wiki, and also perhaps to http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

And then linking to a longer page like the wiki would be fine.

Liam

On 09/23/2012 09:39 AM, Liam R E Quin wrote:

On Sun, 2012-09-23 at 17:48 +0200, Gfxuser wrote:

http://wiki.gimp.org/index.php/Mindstorm:_Rework_of_mailing_list_rules Secondly I think it's useful to publish these rules on new mailing list subscriptions and regularly.

Agree about posting list rules, and this is a really good start but I think it needs to be MUCH shorter or people won't read them.

I'd suggest try to get down to 6 or 7 short statements with links to more detail where it'd be useful.

List only the absolutes, and link to guidelines separately.

Well, maybe something really short like this:

List posting Guidelines

1. stay on topic; people are busy 2. do not attack other people
3. check bugzilla [1] before reporting problems 4. GIMP is not PhotoShop; don't assume people know other software 5. messages are to be in English and in plain text (not HTML). 6. see [2] for how to report problems 7. Thank you for being part of the GIMP commmunity.

Where 1 and 2 are links into the wiki, and also perhaps to http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

And then linking to a longer page like the wiki would be fine.

Liam

+1 - add a link to the wiki page at the top, as the entire list is worthwhile for those who like detailed guidance.

Does "no HTML" imply no smileys?:-)

* Gfxuser [10-08-12 16:01]:
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I reworked the whole list and made a short version with four easy to remember items and separate more detailed explanations out of it.

You find it at http://wiki.gimp.org/index.php/Mindstorm:_Rework_of_mailing_list_rules. I also linked to it from the wiki main page (in the 'Hot topics' section).

Your comments are welcome again.

A quick glance, it appears quite good. You pass.

On Mon, 2012-10-08 at 22:00 +0200, Gfxuser wrote:

http://wiki.gimp.org/index.php/Mindstorm:_Rework_of_mailing_list_rules.

Much better, thank you for your hard work!

Minor note, "Write Readable" should probably be "Write Readably".

Liam

Liam R E Quin (liam@holoweb.net) wrote:

On Mon, 2012-10-08 at 22:00 +0200, Gfxuser wrote:

http://wiki.gimp.org/index.php/Mindstorm:_Rework_of_mailing_list_rules.

Thanks.

Can we add a sentence about mailing list digests? Sometimes people just reply to the digest mails, yielding unreadable subjects and broken threads...

Thanks,
Simon