On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 8:54 PM, Nik Omul wrote:

GIMP plugin registry website has become unusable. Aside from the fact that new 2-column layout resulted in text/image overlapping and answers to questions are now unbound and not traceable back to the questions, it is now bloated with spam most of which hasn't been dealt with in the last 2 days. What a mess! Are people responsible for the website maintenance on strike action or something?

No, we are all waiting for your wonderful webmaster skills to be applied to the registry :) What's taking you so long? :)

Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org

El 24/08/12 04:25, Alexandre Prokoudine escribi:

GIMP plugin registry website has become unusable. Aside from the fact that new 2-column layout resulted in text/image overlapping and answers to questions are now unbound and not traceable back to the questions, it is now bloated with spam most of which hasn't been dealt with in the last 2 days. What a mess! Are people responsible for the website maintenance on strike action or something?

No, we are all waiting for your wonderful webmaster skills to be applied to the registry :) What's taking you so long? :)

It's true that the site became a little bit difficult to use. Alexandre, do they need help with the site? I could use some help from the Grfica Libre community to give the site a refreshing. That's, of course, if the mantainer of that site accepts it.

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On Thu, 2012-08-23 at 09:54 -0700, Nik Omul wrote:

GIMP plugin registry website has become unusable. Aside from the fact that new 2-column layout resulted in text/image overlapping and answers to questions are now unbound and not traceable back to the questions, it is now bloated with spam most of which hasn't been dealt with in the last 2 days. What a mess! Are people responsible for the website maintenance on strike action or something?

Are you saying that somebody who maintains a website on their free time, for no money, has dared to neglect their duty to serve you, somebody who pays fucking nothing for this service, for two full days? WHAT A MESS!

You know what, go away. This entitlement attitude is insulting.

--mitch

to Nik : Omule e vorba de eticheta aici, proabil ca omul care mentine situl in timpul liber a fost chiar ocupat - poti sa ridici problemele si pe alt ton, ei nu mentin situl pe bani si nu au obligatii. Daca e o greseala asta trebuie inteleasa si tratata cu blandete

it's all about atitude - making a valid point masked by rude words does not bring the light anyway

talking / writting this way, even your very good remarks will go unnoticed in the future (therefore no need for a ban...)

2012/8/24 Nik Omul :

1. My question is quite reasonable 2. Your answer just shows your level of maturity 3. If you have nothing to say in this matter why bother answering at all? 4. What's next? Ban me?
Alexandre Prokoudine wrote

On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 8:54 PM, Nik Omul wrote:

GIMP plugin registry website has become unusable. Aside from the fact that
new 2-column layout resulted in text/image overlapping and answers to questions are now unbound and not traceable back to the questions, it is now
bloated with spam most of which hasn't been dealt with in the last 2 days.
What a mess! Are people responsible for the website maintenance on strike action or something?

No, we are all waiting for your wonderful webmaster skills to be applied to the registry :) What's taking you so long? :)

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On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Nik Omul wrote:

1. My question is quite reasonable 2. Your answer just shows your level of maturity 3. If you have nothing to say in this matter why bother answering at all? 4. What's next? Ban me?

I'm glad you are having so much fun discussing the level of my maturity. I wish you could be as zealous with regards to maintaining the registry.

Your original question doesn't make any sense whatsoever. OK, let's assume the person in charge for the registry is on strike, as you so kindly suggested. What's next? Shall we talk about how broken things are? Or shall _someone_ do something about it?

We are not is the taking business here, you see. We are in the doing business. Please adjust your attitude accordingly.

Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org

On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:

We are not is the taking business here, you see. We are in the doing business. Please adjust your attitude accordingly.

s/taking/talking/

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On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 5:18 PM, Guillermo Espertino (Gez) wrote:

It's true that the site became a little bit difficult to use.

Alexandre, do they need help with the site? I could use some help from the Grfica Libre community to give the site a refreshing. That's, of course, if the mantainer of that site accepts it.

I don't think it's "they", it's "he" -- a singular :) And that's exactly the reason there are so many spam issues. A single person cannot moderate a popular site single-handedly.

If anyone has Ingo's contacts, please get in touch with him.

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On 24 August 2012 11:03, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:

On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 5:18 PM, Guillermo Espertino (Gez) wrote:

It's true that the site became a little bit difficult to use.

Alexandre, do they need help with the site? I could use some help from the Gráfica Libre community to give the site a refreshing. That's, of course, if the mantainer of that site accepts it.

I don't think it's "they", it's "he" -- a singular :) And that's exactly the reason there are so many spam issues. A single person cannot moderate a popular site single-handedly.

If anyone has Ingo's contacts, please get in touch with him.

I believe him to be this "Ingo" I'had cc-ed here (got a single e-mail in a gimp-web thread from 2010 in my inbox)

js ->

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Correct, its me ;_). There are definitely a number of issues, and I unfortunately have very little time fixing them.

There are some users helping out with moderation (their registry ids are photocomix, schumaml, mahvin), but something more substantial probably needs to be done.

One current issue is that the site is exceeding its Mollom site limit for a free site. Mollom is the spam service we're using, and when the limit is exceeded, all posts are blocked.

Also, the registry has never been very easy to browse, and this problem has become worse due to size. This is both an issue of finding plugins/scripts, and of navigating the very deep comment hierarchies that have been added to some of the plugin/script pages.

I'd be happy about help, or about people taking over maintenance. Let me know what you'd be willing to do.

cheers, Ingo

On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Joao S. O. Bueno wrote:

On 24 August 2012 11:03, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:

On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 5:18 PM, Guillermo Espertino (Gez) wrote:

It's true that the site became a little bit difficult to use.

Alexandre, do they need help with the site? I could use some help from the Grfica Libre community to give the site a refreshing. That's, of course, if the mantainer of that site accepts it.

I don't think it's "they", it's "he" -- a singular :) And that's exactly the reason there are so many spam issues. A single person cannot moderate a popular site single-handedly.

If anyone has Ingo's contacts, please get in touch with him.

I believe him to be this "Ingo" I'had cc-ed here (got a single e-mail in a gimp-web thread from 2010 in my inbox)

js ->

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Well, I know this isn't much help, but it's a start.

If you add a CSS rule like this to the site:

.field-item p { overflow: auto;
}

Then that would take care of the overflowing images problem. It should just add scrollbars to any images that are too big to fit in one column.

The scrollbars might also scroll text that's near the images (in the same paragraph) in some cases, but that shouldn't be a big problem - the text will only go off screen once the user starts scrolling, after which they have likely already read the text.

-- drawoc

On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Ingo Ltkebohle wrote:

Correct, its me ;_). There are definitely a number of issues, and I unfortunately have very little time fixing them.

There are some users helping out with moderation (their registry ids are photocomix, schumaml, mahvin), but something more substantial probably needs to be done.

One current issue is that the site is exceeding its Mollom site limit for a free site. Mollom is the spam service we're using, and when the limit is exceeded, all posts are blocked.

Also, the registry has never been very easy to browse, and this problem has become worse due to size. This is both an issue of finding plugins/scripts, and of navigating the very deep comment hierarchies that have been added to some of the plugin/script pages.

I'd be happy about help, or about people taking over maintenance. Let me know what you'd be willing to do.

cheers, Ingo

On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Joao S. O. Bueno wrote:

On 24 August 2012 11:03, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:

On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 5:18 PM, Guillermo Espertino (Gez) wrote:

It's true that the site became a little bit difficult to use.

Alexandre, do they need help with the site? I could use some help from the Grfica Libre community to give the site a refreshing. That's, of course, if the mantainer of that site accepts it.

I don't think it's "they", it's "he" -- a singular :) And that's exactly the reason there are so many spam issues. A single person cannot moderate a popular site single-handedly.

If anyone has Ingo's contacts, please get in touch with him.

I believe him to be this "Ingo" I'had cc-ed here (got a single e-mail in a gimp-web thread from 2010 in my inbox)

js ->

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Hi drawoc,

thanks for the hint! I did a slightly different change now, essentially removing the previews from the front page, to reduce clutter.

One of the real issues (besides spam) we are facing is that the registry is now used mostly for asking questions plugins, as opposed to just downloading them. For comparison: I get about one plugin/script update a day, compare to between ten and twenty questions/comments.

This has led to the front page becoming quite overloaded. Solutions are still being sought ;-)

cheers, Ingo

On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 9:34 PM, drawoc wrote:

Well, I know this isn't much help, but it's a start.

If you add a CSS rule like this to the site:

.field-item p { overflow: auto;
}

Then that would take care of the overflowing images problem. It should just add scrollbars to any images that are too big to fit in one column.

The scrollbars might also scroll text that's near the images (in the same paragraph) in some cases, but that shouldn't be a big problem - the text will only go off screen once the user starts scrolling, after which they have likely already read the text.

-- drawoc

On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Ingo Ltkebohle wrote:

Correct, its me ;_). There are definitely a number of issues, and I unfortunately have very little time fixing them.

There are some users helping out with moderation (their registry ids are photocomix, schumaml, mahvin), but something more substantial probably needs to be done.

One current issue is that the site is exceeding its Mollom site limit for a free site. Mollom is the spam service we're using, and when the limit is exceeded, all posts are blocked.

Also, the registry has never been very easy to browse, and this problem has become worse due to size. This is both an issue of finding plugins/scripts, and of navigating the very deep comment hierarchies that have been added to some of the plugin/script pages.

I'd be happy about help, or about people taking over maintenance. Let me know what you'd be willing to do.

cheers, Ingo

On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Joao S. O. Bueno wrote:

On 24 August 2012 11:03, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:

On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 5:18 PM, Guillermo Espertino (Gez) wrote:

It's true that the site became a little bit difficult to use.

Alexandre, do they need help with the site? I could use some help from the Grfica Libre community to give the site a refreshing. That's, of course, if the mantainer of that site accepts it.

I don't think it's "they", it's "he" -- a singular :) And that's exactly the reason there are so many spam issues. A single person cannot moderate a popular site single-handedly.

If anyone has Ingo's contacts, please get in touch with him.

I believe him to be this "Ingo" I'had cc-ed here (got a single e-mail in a gimp-web thread from 2010 in my inbox)

js ->

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On 25 August 2012 09:49, Ingo Lütkebohle wrote:

Hi drawoc,

thanks for the hint! I did a slightly different change now, essentially removing the previews from the front page, to reduce clutter.

One of the real issues (besides spam) we are facing is that the registry is now used mostly for asking questions plugins, as opposed to just downloading them. For comparison: I get about one plugin/script update a day, compare to between ten and twenty questions/comments.

This has led to the front page becoming quite overloaded. Solutions are still being sought ;-)

Is it me, or the current system does not allow any way of browsing the plug-ins but
browsing for them in the foruns by (reverse) order of posting?

js ->

cheers, Ingo

On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 9:34 PM, drawoc wrote:

Well, I know this isn't much help, but it's a start.

If you add a CSS rule like this to the site:

.field-item p { overflow: auto;
}

Then that would take care of the overflowing images problem. It should just add scrollbars to any images that are too big to fit in one column.

The scrollbars might also scroll text that's near the images (in the same paragraph) in some cases, but that shouldn't be a big problem - the text will only go off screen once the user starts scrolling, after which they have likely already read the text.

-- drawoc

On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Ingo Lütkebohle wrote:

Correct, its me ;_). There are definitely a number of issues, and I unfortunately have very little time fixing them.

There are some users helping out with moderation (their registry ids are photocomix, schumaml, mahvin), but something more substantial probably needs to be done.

One current issue is that the site is exceeding its Mollom site limit for a free site. Mollom is the spam service we're using, and when the limit is exceeded, all posts are blocked.

Also, the registry has never been very easy to browse, and this problem has become worse due to size. This is both an issue of finding plugins/scripts, and of navigating the very deep comment hierarchies that have been added to some of the plugin/script pages.

I'd be happy about help, or about people taking over maintenance. Let me know what you'd be willing to do.

cheers, Ingo

On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Joao S. O. Bueno wrote:

On 24 August 2012 11:03, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:

On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 5:18 PM, Guillermo Espertino (Gez) wrote:

It's true that the site became a little bit difficult to use.

Alexandre, do they need help with the site? I could use some help from the Gráfica Libre community to give the site a refreshing. That's, of course, if the mantainer of that site accepts it.

I don't think it's "they", it's "he" -- a singular :) And that's exactly the reason there are so many spam issues. A single person cannot moderate a popular site single-handedly.

If anyone has Ingo's contacts, please get in touch with him.

I believe him to be this "Ingo" I'had cc-ed here (got a single e-mail in a gimp-web thread from 2010 in my inbox)

js ->

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On 08/24/2012 08:54 AM, Ingo Ltkebohle wrote:

Correct, its me ;_). There are definitely a number of issues, and I unfortunately have very little time fixing them.

There are some users helping out with moderation (their registry ids are photocomix, schumaml, mahvin), but something more substantial probably needs to be done.

One current issue is that the site is exceeding its Mollom site limit for a free site. Mollom is the spam service we're using, and when the limit is exceeded, all posts are blocked.

Also, the registry has never been very easy to browse, and this problem has become worse due to size. This is both an issue of finding plugins/scripts, and of navigating the very deep comment hierarchies that have been added to some of the plugin/script pages.

I've had a similar problem completely unrelated to GIMP - it's associated with a complex legal case.

I am almost finished working out a way to browse my system using this tool. The released tool already works for "just" browsing; however, one has to browse from the root node. The tool has to start from the root node.

My python script is a couple of pages; it browses my entire system containing over 100000 entries (directories and files) in about ten seconds, and then produces a tree of mindmaps of all the files and directories under the current directory. I'm still working on the recursion through a succession of mindmaps linked to a partial mindmap of the current directory. I'm planning to release this script under GPL whenever I get it working

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Hi,

I've spent this morning looking over parts of the Gramps-Connect HTML + CSS + JavaScript. I am hoping to contribute a little and work with Doug and whoever else is involved to make the Gramps-Connect better and maybe even responsive so that it will adapt well to smaller screens.

However, I also took a look at the Narrative Web template file. I was considering the amount of work needed to improve that as well since it has been stated that Gramps-Connect and Narrative Web would have shared resources.

I can't remember who worked with Rob on that HTML-generator code for the narrativeweb.py file, but to me it looks completely unapproachable. Last time I worked on Narrative web the template was largely HTML with Python handling the dynamic aspects. It was relatively easy to read and alter.

This current narrativeweb.py file is not that way. There is little or no visible HTML in the file. I can kind of decipher this new HTML-generator code, but there's no way I or probably any web designer is going to feel comfortable writing new HTML with this mechanism.

However clever this HTML-generator is, I think its continued use will only make the Narrative Web plugin less attractive to potential web dev/designer contributors. And it has almost no relationship to the template methods used on the new Gramps-Connect codebase.

I recommend divorcing the Gramps-Connect and Narrative Web resources. I think there is and will continue to be a lot of interest in Gramps-Connect. I think its HTML, CSS and JavaScript should be developed to be as efficient and modern as possible. Trying to accomplish that feat will be difficult enough without anchoring it to the aging and now-difficult-to-update Narrative Web code.

Leave Narrative Web where it is (stable, useful) and develop a new, cutting edge web platform on Gramps-Connect. Then, once Gramps-Connect has stabilized, rebuild the Narrative Web template based on Gramps-Connect.

I hope I am not offending anyone. This is just my perspective and opinion as a professional web designer and developer.

Jason Simanek

Ack. Nevermind. Two developer-list emails that begin with "G" is apparently one too many for my small brain.

Gimp devs, please disregard. This was intended for the GRAMPS devs.

As you were! :D

On 08/26/2012 09:44 AM, Burnie West wrote:

On 08/24/2012 08:54 AM, Ingo Ltkebohle wrote:

Correct, its me ;_). There are definitely a number of issues, and I unfortunately have very little time fixing them.

There are some users helping out with moderation (their registry ids are photocomix, schumaml, mahvin), but something more substantial probably needs to be done.

One current issue is that the site is exceeding its Mollom site limit for a free site. Mollom is the spam service we're using, and when the limit is exceeded, all posts are blocked.

Also, the registry has never been very easy to browse, and this problem has become worse due to size. This is both an issue of finding plugins/scripts, and of navigating the very deep comment hierarchies that have been added to some of the plugin/script pages.

I've had a similar problem completely unrelated to GIMP - it's associated with a complex legal case.

I failed to mention: the tool is "freemind" - released under GPLv2 see freemind.sourceforge.net

I am almost finished working out a way to browse my system using this tool. The released tool already works for "just" browsing; however, one has to browse from the root node. The tool has to start from the root node.

My python script is a couple of pages; it browses my entire system containing over 100000 entries (directories and files) in about ten seconds, and then produces a tree of mindmaps of all the files and directories under the current directory. I'm still working on the recursion through a succession of mindmaps linked to a partial mindmap of the current directory. I'm planning to release this script under GPL whenever I get it working

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