Just my two cents as a professional user:

* Text in GIMP is always part of the composition - (unless it is an annotation)
* There is no such thing as paging in gimp

Agreed. Multi-page layout work is best performed by word processing apps, and advanced design using illustration apps.

* Text in gimp has form and symbolic meaning, but meta levels of information in text are not supported

I invite us to consider changing this paradigm. With the expanding adoption of DAM tools in the professional environment, having the text within Gimp files searchable can be a plus for the user and potentially beneficial for further adoption by professionals.

* /Complete control over typography and the layout of text on the canvas/

This needs expansion. What exactly would be included in "complete control"? If this is referring to traditional typographic adjustments such as kearning, leading, tracking,justification, decoration etc., I believe the developers have that covered already. If you are suggesting enhanced tools, I have some ideas such as

* Drop shadow adjustments o Color
o Opacity
o Blur levels
o Blending modes
* Rapid Access to character maps
* Access to additional font metrics and character sets when available within the font file.

* /unicode supported localisation of text tools/

This sounds like a great idea!

* /text editing for ever/

This could use some clarification. Can you reword this in greater detail?

super-fast workflow, when they are experienced While the existing text tool performs decently for me, speed-wise, I would like to vote up faster workflows. Sometimes though, a faster workflow just comes from a simpler interface. Having to go back and forth between the text box and the pallet is an example of where the existing system is lacking some simplicity. I also understand that at some point, a limit to the number of features added to the tool will be reached, or we are in danger of bloat, both visually and virtually.

On 02/06/2012 06:56 AM, Dominique Schmidt wrote:

In the process of redesigning text handling in GIMP we have come up with a vision. It draws from responses on the list and IRC discussions and has been put together by Peter, Kate and me.

http://gui.gimp.org/index.php/Text-Handling_in_GIMP:_Vision

Particularly asking for comments from mitch and nomis as you guys are probably the main developers for this work.

thanks,

dominique

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Around 18 years ago, during the original clone-tool wars ( sorry, I had to do it. ) when digital retouching systems were all fighting to be top dog, I used a proprietary retouching workstation called "Superset". Some of the tools in this system were not only amazing at the time, but have yet to be duplicated today.

The airbrush and cloning tools used stocastic brushes that were recalculated with every "hit" or "impression" of the brush. This is the closest I have ever seen a digital brush come to the performance of a real airbrush. This made for band-free soft brushes and the ability to create textures with amazing results. Skin textures and such were incredible. The brushes could be scaled almost indefinitely with no scaling artifacts. These brushes were blazing fast and all done on 486 era processors!

Another system, this one by Abra - also proprietary, had a "scramble" or "randomize" tool. This tool operated like a brush and when applied would randomize the pixels within the brushes defined area. Extremely useful for facial retouch work.

Dnia Mon, Feb 06, 2012 at 08:57:13AM -0700, John Harris napisał był:

Around 18 years ago, during the original clone-tool wars ( sorry, I had to do it. ) when digital retouching systems were all fighting to be top dog, I used a proprietary retouching workstation called "Superset". Some of the tools in this system were not only amazing at the time, but have yet to be duplicated today.

The airbrush and cloning tools used stocastic brushes that were recalculated with every "hit" or "impression" of the brush. This is the closest I have ever seen a digital brush come to the performance of a real airbrush. This made for band-free soft brushes and the ability to create textures with amazing results. Skin textures and such were incredible. The brushes could be scaled almost indefinitely with no scaling artifacts. These brushes were blazing fast and all done on 486 era processors!

Another system, this one by Abra - also proprietary, had a "scramble" or "randomize" tool. This tool operated like a brush and when applied would randomize the pixels within the brushes defined area. Extremely useful for facial retouch work.

+1 for that idea!

My best!
thebodzio

On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 10:16 AM, John Harris wrote:

Just my two cents as a professional user:

Complete control over typography and the layout of text on the canvas

This needs expansion. What exactly would be included in "complete control"? If this is referring to traditional typographic adjustments such as kearning, leading, tracking,justification, decoration etc., I believe the developers have that covered already.

I'm guessing they are referring as well to OpenType features like alternative forms and ligatures.

Rockwalrus