On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 11:56 PM, Michael Terry wrote:

We would like to announce the availability of binaries for AdaptableGIMP, a modified version of GIMP that integrates new social, community-based customization features into the application. The project page and software can be found at:

http://www.adaptablegimp.org

Great, another fork... Interesting idea tho. Too bad it wasn't built as a plugin.

Binaries are currently available for Windows and Debian (32-bit).

Show me the source. In git repository( or some other common version control system) form preferably. Also, what I notice is that its a fork off 2.6. Have you built it it so that it will work on upcoming 2.8? 2.6 is horribly obsolete when compared to even current slightly buggy 2.7, that can be considered to be in feature freeze now.

On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Michael Terry wrote:

Hi Alexia -

http://www.adaptablegimp.org

Great, another fork... Interesting idea tho. Too bad it wasn't built as a plugin.

We would have loved to build it as a plug-in, but we need to significantly alter the toolbox's behavior, which is not possible with GIMP's plug-in architecture.

But you could have replaced the toolbox totaly with a dialog created by your plugin... Some pdb changes may be needed as well to control active tools, but those may have been mergeable, making the plug-in usable on all gimp installations and your test base much larger.

The source is available at the same place the binaries are. Making it available via git is a good idea. I'll see if we can put that in place in the upcoming weeks.

Great :)

Porting it to the more recent versions should not be that difficult. In the meantime, there should be more than enough to explore and play with in our current version.

I personally haven't used 2.6 since it was released, because as a developer I have 2.7 at hand and the improvements are great, in spite the occasional bug.

We're especially interested in feedback on the feature set and how it does, or does not, integrate into your workflows.

Well, I personally have very little workflows left that work on 2.6 et all. Two major changes have altered all my usage habbits - SWM and tool presets. Plus innumerable brush tool/outline speed ups. Tool presets is why I brought up 2.7/2.8. There seems to be a little bit of overlap between what you and tool presets offer.

-- --Alexia

P.S. sorry about the direct mail duplicate

Very cool work!

So you guys has implemented some sort of scripts for recording and replaying commands?

Interestingly, I implemented a revision control system in the form of plugin for GIMP and the paper will be published on SIGGRAPH 2011. I had to modify the GIMP core (in a ugly fashion to meet the deadline...) to record user's actions and I am always wondering is there some other more elegant way to do so?

Please take a look at the abstract and video here

https://sites.google.com/site/httimchen/2011_imagesvn

On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 1:16 AM, Alexia Death wrote:

On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Michael Terry wrote:

Hi Alexia -

http://www.adaptablegimp.org

Great, another fork... Interesting idea tho. Too bad it wasn't built as a plugin.

We would have loved to build it as a plug-in, but we need to significantly alter the toolbox's behavior, which is not possible with GIMP's plug-in architecture.

But you could have replaced the toolbox totaly with a dialog created by your plugin... Some pdb changes may be needed as well to control active tools, but those may have been mergeable, making the plug-in usable on all gimp installations and your test base much larger.

The source is available at the same place the binaries are. Making it available via git is a good idea. I'll see if we can put that in place in the upcoming weeks.

Great :)

Porting it to the more recent versions should not be that difficult. In the meantime, there should be more than enough to explore and play with in our current version.

I personally haven't used 2.6 since it was released, because as a developer I have 2.7 at hand and the improvements are great, in spite the occasional bug.

We're especially interested in feedback on the feature set and how it does, or does not, integrate into your workflows.

Well, I personally have very little workflows left that work on 2.6 et all. Two major changes have altered all my usage habbits - SWM and tool presets. Plus innumerable brush tool/outline  speed ups. Tool presets is why I brought up 2.7/2.8. There seems to be a little bit of overlap between what you and tool presets offer.

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On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 9:39 PM, Tim Chen wrote:

Very cool work!

So you guys has implemented some sort of scripts for recording and replaying commands?

Interestingly, I implemented a revision control system in the form of plugin for GIMP and the paper will be published on SIGGRAPH 2011. I had to modify the GIMP core (in a ugly fashion to meet the deadline...) to record user's actions and I am always wondering is there some other  more elegant way to do so?

Please take a look at the abstract and video here

https://sites.google.com/site/httimchen/2011_imagesvn

WOW. Now that was cool. Im wondering what exactly did you modify and what facility would you need in gimp to make this possible straight up? There has been talk of such a facility in gimp for ages, but nobody has picked it up...

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On 4/30/11, Tim Chen wrote:

Interestingly, I implemented a revision control system in the form of plugin for GIMP and the paper will be published on SIGGRAPH 2011. I had to modify the GIMP core (in a ugly fashion to meet the deadline...) to record user's actions and I am always wondering is there some other more elegant way to do so?

Please take a look at the abstract and video here

https://sites.google.com/site/httimchen/2011_imagesvn

Well, that's a call for few very predictable questions :) Are you planning to release source code? Are you interested in working on "proper" GEGL based implementation (since yours is DAG based anyway)? We always missed people willing to seriously work on that, it'd be a shame to see your initiative not used in the upstream project :)

Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org

I see, that's cool.

But it seems like that the process of creating task-set is not intuitive enough. Also, do users have to manually capture/upload the snapshot of their task-set or your system will automatically capture it?

The better way to do so is perhaps like Grabler's automatic tutorial generation work at SIGGRAPH 2009?

http://vis.berkeley.edu/papers/tutgen/

In any case, I really like the direction you are taking and I believe your system will really shine after the GIMP provides the macro function someday. Assume someone is to share her newly recorded macro, she can analyze and annotate her macro with your system then share it via the wiki. And other users can download and apply the macro step-by-step in the speed they like. Wow, I do look forward the coming of that day!

About my work, yes, I will share the source code and I would definitely like to replace my current backend with GEGL. But this thread is really about Michael's wonderful work and we should discuss my system on some separate thread :D

@Michael Terry, Please accept my apology of mentioning my project in the thread, it seems to distract others' focus from your work.

Regards, -Tim

On May 1, 2011, at 4:55 AM, Michael Terry wrote:

Hi Tim -

Nice work! It looks very useful.

AdaptableGIMP doesn't record scripts -- our system is a way to collect all the tools necessary for a task in one spot. A great example of how this is useful is the task of drawing rectangles. In the version of GIMP we modified, there is no rectangle drawing tool. So we have a "task set" (interface customization) that gathers the tools needed to draw a rectangle, and walks you through the process:

http://adaptablegimp.org/index.php/TaskSet:Drawing_Squares_and_Rectangles

While the web page is useful on its own, AdaptableGIMP will customize the toolbox with only the tools shown in the wiki page.

Will you be releasing the source code to your work?

Michael

On 4/30/11 2:39 PM, Tim Chen wrote:

Very cool work!

So you guys has implemented some sort of scripts for recording and replaying commands?

Interestingly, I implemented a revision control system in the form of plugin for GIMP and the paper will be published on SIGGRAPH 2011. I had to modify the GIMP core (in a ugly fashion to meet the deadline...) to record user's actions and I am always wondering is there some other more elegant way to do so?

Please take a look at the abstract and video here

https://sites.google.com/site/httimchen/2011_imagesvn

On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 1:16 AM, Alexia Death wrote:

On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Michael Terry wrote:

Hi Alexia -

http://www.adaptablegimp.org

Great, another fork... Interesting idea tho. Too bad it wasn't built as a plugin.

We would have loved to build it as a plug-in, but we need to significantly alter the toolbox's behavior, which is not possible with GIMP's plug-in architecture.

But you could have replaced the toolbox totaly with a dialog created by your plugin... Some pdb changes may be needed as well to control active tools, but those may have been mergeable, making the plug-in usable on all gimp installations and your test base much larger.

The source is available at the same place the binaries are. Making it available via git is a good idea. I'll see if we can put that in place in the upcoming weeks.

Great :)

Porting it to the more recent versions should not be that difficult. In the meantime, there should be more than enough to explore and play with in our current version.

I personally haven't used 2.6 since it was released, because as a developer I have 2.7 at hand and the improvements are great, in spite the occasional bug.

We're especially interested in feedback on the feature set and how it does, or does not, integrate into your workflows.

Well, I personally have very little workflows left that work on 2.6 et all. Two major changes have altered all my usage habbits - SWM and tool presets. Plus innumerable brush tool/outline speed ups. Tool presets is why I brought up 2.7/2.8. There seems to be a little bit of overlap between what you and tool presets offer.

-- --Alexia

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