On 02/28/2011 12:07 AM, LightningIsMyName wrote:

Hello,

Today (February 28, 2011), at 10pm CET (for time zone conversions, see http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=2&day=28&year=2011&hour=22&min=0&sec=0&p1=48 ) a meeting of GIMP developers is scheduled on the GIMP developer IRC. On the list of topics:

- GSoC 2011 - ORG Application deadline is in 11 days! - Bug fixing priorities
- Future development?

Good initiative. I'd like to add to the agenda:

- Create a roadmap at http://gimp-wiki.who.ee/ - Make http://gimp-wiki.who.ee/ the official wiki, e.g. make wiki.gimp.org point to it

/ Martin

On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 11:49 AM, LightningIsMyName wrote:

Added to the the agenda - mine was just a partial suggestion :) I'll try to update my blog post with a public agenda (http://lightningismyname.blogspot.com/2011/02/gimp-developer-meeting.html), and I'll upload a summary to http://gimp-wiki.who.ee/. Btw, Alexia said on IRC that she can't point a domain at that adress so we really should get wiki.gimp.org running or pay for some web server with the GIMP funds.

I cant have an extra domain, but redirect(the way bugs.gimp.org points to gnome bugzilla) is free and fine by me and I can afford to host it even if it becomes official I think.

I do plan to be traveling also at the time of the meeting, so if all goes well I wont be around for it.However my traveling depends on a person who is notoriously slow so who knows:P

LightningIsMyName wrote:

said on IRC that she can't point a domain at that adress so we really should get wiki.gimp.org running or pay for some web server with the GIMP funds.

We can discuss this more at todays meeting. I would like to know what the problem is with having wiki.gimp.org. GIMP has its own website so adding a wiki to it should be no problem. Is it a lack of diskspace, lack of someone to set it up, or lack of someone who keep an eye on the wiki and maintain it?

On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 7:23 PM, Kevin Cozens wrote:

LightningIsMyName wrote:

said on IRC that she can't point a domain at that adress so we really should get wiki.gimp.org running or pay for some web server with the GIMP funds.

We can discuss this more at todays meeting. I would like to know what the problem is with having wiki.gimp.org. GIMP has its own website so adding a wiki to it should be no problem. Is it a lack of diskspace, lack of someone to set it up, or lack of someone who keep an eye on the wiki and maintain it?

Wiki needs an admin that cares, a database and php installed on the server. AFAIK there is no gimp host that meets all those requirements, specially the admin part. Quite aside technical issues that are usually solvable by an install command, there are certain risks to be considered.

I wouldn't put in the same machine as any part of the main gimp site. Any dynamic site is vulnerable to exploits and hacks. Compromising such a trivial side thing like the wiki should in no way threaten the operation of any of the main sites and integrity of a heavily used and trusted host like gimp.org that could be used to spread malware far and wide.

On Mon, 2011-02-28 at 19:38 +0200, Alexia Death wrote:

On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 7:23 PM, Kevin Cozens wrote:

LightningIsMyName wrote:

said on IRC that she can't point a domain at that adress so we really should get wiki.gimp.org running or pay for some web server with the GIMP funds.

We can discuss this more at todays meeting. I would like to know what the problem is with having wiki.gimp.org. GIMP has its own website so adding a wiki to it should be no problem. Is it a lack of diskspace, lack of someone to set it up, or lack of someone who keep an eye on the wiki and maintain it?

Wiki needs an admin that cares, a database and php installed on the server. AFAIK there is no gimp host that meets all those requirements, specially the admin part.

Well, the machine that hosts www.gimp.org meets all those requirements. It has database and PHP installed and if anyone volunteers to become "the admin that cares", it's no problem to add accounts on the machine.

I wouldn't put in the same machine as any part of the main gimp site. Any dynamic site is vulnerable to exploits and hacks. Compromising such a trivial side thing like the wiki should in no way threaten the operation of any of the main sites and integrity of a heavily used and trusted host like gimp.org that could be used to spread malware far and wide.

Well, that's a point. But I guess that one could run such a server in a chroot environment or even a virtual host.

Sven

This is happening now in #gimp-development

--xsdg

Sven Neumann escribió:

On Mon, 2011-02-28 at 19:38 +0200, Alexia Death wrote: > On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 7:23 PM, Kevin Cozens wrote: > > LightningIsMyName wrote: > >> said on IRC that she can't point a domain at that adress so we really > >> should get wiki.gimp.org running or pay for some web server with the > >> GIMP funds. > > > > We can discuss this more at todays meeting. I would like to know what the > > problem is with having wiki.gimp.org. GIMP has its own website so adding a > > wiki to it should be no problem. Is it a lack of diskspace, lack of someone > > to set it up, or lack of someone who keep an eye on the wiki and maintain it? > > Wiki needs an admin that cares, a database and php installed on the > server. AFAIK there is no gimp host that meets all those requirements, > specially the admin part. Well, the machine that hosts www.gimp.org meets all those requirements. It has database and PHP installed and if anyone volunteers to become "the admin that cares", it's no problem to add accounts on the machine. > I wouldn't put in the same machine as any part of the main gimp site. > Any dynamic site is vulnerable to exploits and hacks. Compromising > such a trivial side thing like the wiki should in no way threaten the > operation of any of the main sites and integrity of a heavily used and > trusted host like gimp.org that could be used to spread malware far > and wide. Well, that's a point. But I guess that one could run such a server in a chroot environment or even a virtual host. Sven_____________________________________________ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer

On 02/28/2011 07:02 PM, Sven Neumann wrote:

On Mon, 2011-02-28 at 19:38 +0200, Alexia Death wrote:

Wiki needs an admin that cares, a database and php installed on the server. AFAIK there is no gimp host that meets all those requirements, specially the admin part.

Well, the machine that hosts www.gimp.org meets all those requirements. It has database and PHP installed and if anyone volunteers to become "the admin that cares", it's no problem to add accounts on the machine.

Why don't we migrate gimp-wiki.who.ee to gui.gimp.org and call it wiki.gimp.org instead? Seems unnecessary to administer two wikis.

/ Martin