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Wrong tools contour Nelson A. de Oliveira 03 Feb 12:50
  Wrong tools contour Alexia Death 03 Feb 14:32
   Wrong tools contour Nelson A. de Oliveira 03 Feb 16:10
    Wrong tools contour Rob Antonishen 03 Feb 16:28
    Wrong tools contour Alexia Death 03 Feb 16:59
     Wrong tools contour Martin Nordholts 03 Feb 18:11
   Wrong tools contour Sven Neumann 03 Feb 22:23
Nelson A. de Oliveira
2011-02-03 12:50:51 UTC (almost 14 years ago)

Wrong tools contour

Hi!

I don't know if it's a know issue, but it seems that the contour from pencil, paintbrush and rubber are being wrongly drawn on the screen (using latest git version).
A video is available at http://sites.google.com/site/naoliv/gimp demonstrating this issue.
See that when using the pencil, the "round" contour isn't symmetric as it should be. For the paintbrush and the rubber the contour keeps changing with every move.

It's a little annoying and makes us think "Why it's drawing outside the contour?" or "Why it's not drawing where it's supposed to?"

Thank you!

Best regards, Nelson

Alexia Death
2011-02-03 14:32:52 UTC (almost 14 years ago)

Wrong tools contour

On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:50 PM, Nelson A. de Oliveira wrote:

I don't know if it's a know issue,

Im sorry, but I find this question a bit annoying. It's a big issue smack in the middle where you cant miss it. Of course its known.

but it seems that the contour from pencil, paintbrush and rubber are being wrongly drawn on the screen

Yes its know. And I restored it to its usual state(that is also broken, but less so) a few days ago.

(using latest git version).

Git is a moving target. It is occasionally broken. If you want to complain about something in it, its best done in IRC and after building again to see if it has been fixed already.

Nelson A. de Oliveira
2011-02-03 16:10:21 UTC (almost 14 years ago)

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On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Alexia Death wrote:

On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:50 PM, Nelson A. de Oliveira wrote:

I don't know if it's a know issue,

Im sorry, but I find this question a bit annoying. It's a big issue smack in the middle where you cant miss it. Of course its known.

So users will have to always stay in doubt if one issue is known or not, because it annoys to ask?
I did search the bug reports and didn't find anything (maybe I didn't search very well, but I did try). Also, there isn't a "known issues" list in gimp.org.
How I am supposed to know what is known or not, besides asking?

(using latest git version).

Git is a moving target. It is occasionally broken. If you want to complain about something in it, its best done in IRC and after building again to see if it has been fixed already.

See that there is a difference between complaining and asking (even if I didn't use an interrogation, it indeed was a doubt): I didn't say that "Gimp sux! Brush contours are all broken and wrong". Also see that by latest git version, I really mean the latest version (7e6d2542f22f7168abc7160fc0960e405e2eb607 right now). So the problem is still there.

And what is the difference/problem in asking in the mailing-list instead IRC? If I don't need to have a fast answer, my network has some kind of restriction or I don't know what IRC is, why do I have to ask on IRC?

Nelson

Rob Antonishen
2011-02-03 16:28:11 UTC (almost 14 years ago)

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Also see that by latest git version, I really mean the latest version (7e6d2542f22f7168abc7160fc0960e405e2eb607 right now). So the problem is still there.

commit 7e6d2542f22f7168abc7160fc0960e405e2eb607

Is not showing incorrect tool contours for me.

-Rob A>

Alexia Death
2011-02-03 16:59:03 UTC (almost 14 years ago)

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On Thursday, February 03, 2011 18:10:21 Nelson A. de Oliveira wrote:

On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Alexia Death wrote:

On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:50 PM, Nelson A. de Oliveira

wrote:

I don't know if it's a know issue,

Im sorry, but I find this question a bit annoying. It's a big issue smack in the middle where you cant miss it. Of course its known.

So users will have to always stay in doubt if one issue is known or not, because it annoys to ask?

Users arent supposed to use GIT versions. Git versions are for developers and often conain incomplete features. Not everything that goes on in GIT is documented outside because developers are working on it and would go nuts if they had to explain their every move to users. IRC[1] is where developers communicate and where this information is shared.

AS to your question, the outline has been somewhat broken fo while. it doesnt interact prfectly with brush transforms and is waiting for a complete reworking. Recently I broke it completely and then fixed it again to the previous slightly broken state.

-- Alexia

[1] http://www.gimp.org/irc.html

Martin Nordholts
2011-02-03 18:11:36 UTC (almost 14 years ago)

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On 02/03/2011 05:59 PM, Alexia Death wrote:

On Thursday, February 03, 2011 18:10:21 Nelson A. de Oliveira wrote:

On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Alexia Death wrote:

On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:50 PM, Nelson A. de Oliveira

wrote:

I don't know if it's a know issue,

Im sorry, but I find this question a bit annoying. It's a big issue smack in the middle where you cant miss it. Of course its known.

So users will have to always stay in doubt if one issue is known or not, because it annoys to ask?

Users arent supposed to use GIT versions. Git versions are for developers and often conain incomplete features.

This is how it _has_ been, but to make GIMP more fun for both developers and users, this needs to change.

The change we need to make is to develop things on feature branches and merge them to git master when they are ready. That way we can make releases much more frequently than every 2 or 3 years.

Making frequent releases is one important part in attracting contributors. How fun is it to contribute a feature to a project when the feature won't be widely used until after 3 years?

So to be a bit harsh: the error here was that git master broke, not that a user wanted to help by pointing it out.

/ Martin

Sven Neumann
2011-02-03 22:23:22 UTC (almost 14 years ago)

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On Thu, 2011-02-03 at 16:32 +0200, Alexia Death wrote:

On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:50 PM, Nelson A. de Oliveira wrote:

I don't know if it's a know issue,

Im sorry, but I find this question a bit annoying. It's a big issue smack in the middle where you cant miss it. Of course its known.

but it seems that the contour from pencil, paintbrush and rubber are being wrongly drawn on the screen

Yes its know. And I restored it to its usual state(that is also broken, but less so) a few days ago.

(using latest git version).

Git is a moving target. It is occasionally broken. If you want to complain about something in it, its best done in IRC and after building again to see if it has been fixed already.

Alexia, it is still OK to ask here. Asking here should be as appropriate as asking on IRC. A short answer stating that this is a known issue would have been appropriate.

Sven