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GIMP icon " stolen" by commercial Symbian software on sale at Nokia app store Ilgaz Ocal 21 Jan 05:37
  GIMP icon " stolen" by commercial Symbian software on sale at Nokia app store Martin Nordholts 21 Jan 05:53
Ilgaz Ocal
2011-01-21 05:37:42 UTC (almost 14 years ago)

GIMP icon " stolen" by commercial Symbian software on sale at Nokia app store

catking.net> writes:

> > On 01/19/11 23:15, Ilgaz Öcal wrote: > > Hello, > > > > After spending some time on IRC, I decided this is the best way to > > report it. I noticed Nokia "Ovi Store" (an app store) carries a software > > named "SnapMe" which is clearly not GPL using GIMP application icon. You > > should be able to see when you click on following link: > > http://store.ovi.com/search?q=SnapMe > > > > I did my best to report (c) violation to Nokia but from what I hear, > > their staff is way overloaded. Actual way to report it is at article 7 > > of following document which requires you to be the actual copyright > > owner of the image. > > What a joke! It is not for Nokia to impose stringent conditions on those > who wish to notify them of possible illegal content in their products. > It is their responsibility to ensure they are not breaking the law.

You can ask 300 million Symbian users and ex-Symbian users about their jokes but it doesn't change they stupidly created that policy preventing me from reporting it in an official way that will be archived on their systems and legally bind them.

> > You do not need to be the copyright holder to inform them you believe > they are breaking the law. > > If you want to act on this , just send them a written letter by a signed > for mail service to one of there corporate offices. > > I would strongly advise against any "sworn statement" and suggest you > couch everything in conditional disclaimers like "it appears that" , "I > believe that" etc. so that they can't accuse you of anything. > > BTW the logo has not been "stolen" , gimp.org is still in possession of > it and still using it. Theft implies dispossessing someone of a physical > object. Making a copy does not deprive the rightful owner of possession. > Copyright infringement is a civil offence not to be assimilated with > theft which is a criminal act. Yes, I couldn't find correct word for it and my purpose of posting that message to developer list of an application which I can't even build (because of arch issues) to send an "heads up" to GIMP project developers, who really "owns" it. So, that is why I used the "" sign.

> > The logo has not been stolen , neither were the climategate emails > stolen. That just stupid tabloid newpaper language.

While posting the message, I had a feeling that it is slightly off topic. What gave me the reason is actually GIMP doesn't have (or I couldn't find) a dedicated page to report license issues like Mozilla folks have. On the other hand, as you see I am posting with my real name, not "/IO", I am not a native english speaker. It is persons like you who really manages to make people "afraid" of sending any feedback, positive or negative. This is not a copyright matters forum or English lecture class. I have no reason to debate whether I am posting in the right terms or if I, as a foreigner who speaks english as a second language uses "Tabloid" language.

Message purpose to reach GIMP developers about this very shameful act by a developer who sure knows what GIMP is (Symbian isn't a toy to code) and let them contact Nokia as our feedback would likely be lost in thousands of "my app is bwoken" kind of messages.

I was expecting some kind of "off topic" flame but not this. It is really interesting that only absolute offtopic message with flaming the messenger for the choice of words happens on this particular open source projects mailing list.

I got my lesson second time for attempting to help an open source project in a positive manner.

> > /gg > > > So as I know copyright issues should be taken serious, especially by GPL > > software, I thought I better report it this way. > > > > Sorry for off topic message, if it is...

Martin Nordholts
2011-01-21 05:53:19 UTC (almost 14 years ago)

GIMP icon " stolen" by commercial Symbian software on sale at Nokia app store

On 01/21/2011 06:37 AM, Ilgaz Ocal wrote:

I got my lesson second time for attempting to help an open source project in a positive manner.

Hi Ilgaz

Don't take one unfriendly reply from an arbitrary person as a representative reply from everyone. There are many of us that appreciate that you want to help us out. Thank you for that.

Regards, Martin