On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 4:23 PM, wrote:

it is possible to make guides invisible/visible and to make them magnetic/nonmagnetic.

Both features are independent, which is good for some situations.

To make them invisible as well as non-magnetic at the same time, two check boxes must be enabled/disabled.

The possibility to make both with one click would be fine: visible && magnetic / invisible && non-magnetic.

Also it would be fine to have keyboard-shortcuts for all those check-boxes.

You can already do this to all the guides at once: View->Show Guides
View->Snap to guides

an even more advaned usage of Guides would be, to have Guide-layers. One could disable guides on a guide-layer completely, when swictching off the eye for that layer, and enable them again like any other layer, when clicking on the corresponding layers-eye.

With that feature one could do very complex graphics easily.

Together with layer-groups, one could have layer-group specific guides, which will make it even more powerful.

Guides that will not be part of a group would be acting globally, and guides that are part of a layer-group would be activated only together with that group.

The layer stack is definetly not the place for putting guides (at least that's my opinion). We can however consider adding groups for guides which indeed sounds more reasonable. Since implementing angular guides (which I tried yesterday) requires rewriting many of the guides code, I can try to add this as part of the re-write. Note however that I think that a flat list of guide groups is enough - implemeting a tree of groups sounds much more than needed. I believe that guide groups shouldn't be added to the layer stack since it's cluttered enough as it is, and since having a dedicated dialog for guide groups sounds much more productive.

~LightningIsMyName

Hello,

On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 8:07 PM, Tobias Ellinghaus wrote:

Am Samstag, 7. August 2010 schrub oliver@first.in-berlin.de:

it is possible to make guides invisible/visible and to make them magnetic/nonmagnetic.

Both features are independent, which is good for some situations.

To make them invisible as well as non-magnetic at the same time, two check boxes must be enabled/disabled.

The possibility to make both with one click would be fine: visible && magnetic / invisible && non-magnetic.

I don't have an installed GIMP around so I cannot test it: are invisible guides magnetic? If not then your request is void as making them invisible will also make them non-magnetic. If yes then that sounds (at least to me) like a bug/design flaw.

I actually use invisible guides quite a lot - especially when designing things like website layouts - I want to snap to the layout's rectangles after I drew them, but I don't won't them to clutter my view (especially since in some situations you can have quite a lot of guides)

There are many more cases in which invisible magnetic guides can be useful - usually these situations involve many guides where it's visible directly on the drawing itself where the lines are.

The fact that snapping and visibility are independent is very useful, and I do wish to keep it this way. If the two clicks really bother some people, I suggest assigning a short-cut key to both features to do this quickly.

But, Since I agree it can be confusing, I suggest that when hiding guides which are still magnetic, a message will be displayed in the status-bar at the bottom of the image saying something like "Note that the guides are hidden but still used for snapping".

~LightningIsMyName