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What are the long-term plans (if any) for OS X?

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What are the long-term plans (if any) for OS X? Stephen 23 Jun 16:52
  What are the long-term plans (if any) for OS X? Alexandre Prokoudine 23 Jun 16:59
  What are the long-term plans (if any) for OS X? Jozef Legény 23 Jun 17:01
  What are the long-term plans (if any) for OS X? Martin Nordholts 23 Jun 17:11
   What are the long-term plans (if any) for OS X? Stephen 24 Jun 17:57
    What are the long-term plans (if any) for OS X? Martin Nordholts 24 Jun 18:18
Stephen
2010-06-23 16:52:32 UTC (over 14 years ago)

What are the long-term plans (if any) for OS X?

Hello all-

I'm currently working on Seashore, which is a Cocoa app that shares some code with GIMP. The developer that ran the project in the past left so I guess now I'm in charge of the project. I just made my first preview release (you can see it on the webpage http://seashore.sourceforge.net/)

However, my understanding is the the original developer of Seashore kind of went off on his own and started this without much involvement of the people actually working on GIMP and that seems like a shame to me.

I was wondering if anyone here has long-term plans for supporting the OS X platform. The reason I ask is I don't want to spend any further time on Seashore if there are serious prospects for a native Cocoa GIMP anywhere in the future; I would rather help out with that.

If it does not seem like GIMP will ever run natively on OS X, and Seashore is the best we can do in terms of a native Cocoa offering, then I was wondering if anyone here had any tips or advice for working on Seashore (or even if anyone wanted to help out!).

Thank you very much, I look forward to hearing from you-

Best, Stephen

Alexandre Prokoudine
2010-06-23 16:59:52 UTC (over 14 years ago)

What are the long-term plans (if any) for OS X?

On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Stephen wrote:

I was wondering if anyone here has long-term plans for supporting the OS X platform. The reason I ask is I don't want to spend any further time on Seashore if there are serious prospects for a native Cocoa GIMP anywhere in the future; I would rather help out with that.

Stephen,

My impression is that everyone is still hoping to see stable builds of GIMP on Mac with Quartz port of GTK+. But somehow it just doesn't happen.

Rewriting GIMP in Cocoa by the core GIMP team is out of question: there are too few developers active and none of them using Mac to the best of my knowledge.

Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org

Jozef Legény
2010-06-23 17:01:01 UTC (over 14 years ago)

What are the long-term plans (if any) for OS X?

The GIMP can actually already run natively on OS X, at least in theory. There is a build of Gtk+ which uses native Cocoa backend.

http://gtk-osx.sourceforge.net/

I've read several posts from people claiming they have built GIMP via jhbuild. There is also the possibility to install the gtk+ from macports with +no_x11+quartz+macos flags and then compile GIMP, however in my case this resulted in a bogus pango.

Currently I'm trying to make an application bundle of Gimp using Gtk+ for Cocoa, but I haven't had much time lately.

Martin Nordholts
2010-06-23 17:11:00 UTC (over 14 years ago)

What are the long-term plans (if any) for OS X?

On 06/23/2010 04:52 PM, Stephen wrote:

Hello all-

[...]

I was wondering if anyone here has long-term plans for supporting the OS X platform. The reason I ask is I don't want to spend any further time on Seashore if there are serious prospects for a native Cocoa GIMP anywhere in the future; I would rather help out with that.

Hi Stepehen

The GIMP project has for a long time wanted help from someone with OS X experience, we absolutely want GIMP to work good and build for Mac OS X.

I think a good first step would be to port Seashore Mac OS adaptations to upstream GIMP.

Thanks a lot in advance for any help you will give us to make GIMP play more nicely with Mac OS X.

Best regards, Martin

Stephen
2010-06-24 17:57:20 UTC (over 14 years ago)

What are the long-term plans (if any) for OS X?

On Jun 23, 2010, at 8:16 AM, Martin Nordholts wrote:

I think a good first step would be to port Seashore Mac OS adaptations to upstream GIMP.

I'm not quite sure what you mean by porting Seashore adaptations to GIMP. As some background, Seashore has an entirely custom-build Cocoa UI, as well as Cocoa file I/O code. It would only make sense to port these adaptations to GIMP if there was a separate branch that removed the current GTK+ UI and replaced it with a Cocoa one, unless your referring to something else :)

-Stephen

Martin Nordholts
2010-06-24 18:18:01 UTC (over 14 years ago)

What are the long-term plans (if any) for OS X?

On 06/24/2010 05:57 PM, Stephen wrote:

On Jun 23, 2010, at 8:16 AM, Martin Nordholts wrote:

I think a good first step would be to port Seashore Mac OS adaptations to upstream GIMP.

I'm not quite sure what you mean by porting Seashore adaptations to GIMP. As some background, Seashore has an entirely custom-build Cocoa UI, as well as Cocoa file I/O code. It would only make sense to port these adaptations to GIMP if there was a separate branch that removed the current GTK+ UI and replaced it with a Cocoa one, unless your referring to something else :)

What I meant was: There surely have been other adaptations to the forked GIMP codebase to play more nicely with Mac OS X? If so, it would be nice to get that into git master if it's generally useful.

/ Martin