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incomprehensible behavior with the git version

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incomprehensible behavior with the git version Olivier 31 Mar 09:10
  incomprehensible behavior with the git version Omari Stephens 31 Mar 10:20
   incomprehensible behavior with the git version Olivier 31 Mar 11:12
    incomprehensible behavior with the git version LightningIsMyName 31 Mar 11:22
    incomprehensible behavior with the git version Olivier 31 Mar 11:25
     incomprehensible behavior with the git version Alexia Death 31 Mar 11:31
      incomprehensible behavior with the git version Olivier 31 Mar 11:52
Olivier
2010-03-31 09:10:02 UTC (over 14 years ago)

incomprehensible behavior with the git version

The problem I encounter is not with the git version, but with my use of it. Explanations:

I have two computers, one at work and one at home. Same version of Debian testing (Squeeze), same version of GIMP compiled from git the same day. No problem with the computer at home.

On the computer at work, I have at least two very specific problems: Ctrl+mouse scrolling does not zoom at all, and with the Text tool, the temporary control window in the image does not work: if I click on some control, it is as if I would like to write text elsewhere in the window. The scrolling-zooming problem does not occur with GIMP 2.6, it is specific to the git version.

I tried re-installing completely Debian testing on the computer at work, with no result. Today I imagined another test: I created another account on the same computer, and checked the two problems above. Both have disappeared.

Thus the problem is somewhere in my personal configuration, but where should I search? Do the two problems suggest some idea to anybody?

Omari Stephens
2010-03-31 10:20:10 UTC (over 14 years ago)

incomprehensible behavior with the git version

Try running "ldd `which gimp-2.7`" on both machines. I would imagine there's a dependency issue. Specifically, I'd wonder about your versions of X11 and GTK

--xsdg

On 03/31/2010 07:10 AM, Olivier wrote:

The problem I encounter is not with the git version, but with my use of it. Explanations:

I have two computers, one at work and one at home. Same version of Debian testing (Squeeze), same version of GIMP compiled from git the same day. No problem with the computer at home.

On the computer at work, I have at least two very specific problems: Ctrl+mouse scrolling does not zoom at all, and with the Text tool, the temporary control window in the image does not work: if I click on some control, it is as if I would like to write text elsewhere in the window. The scrolling-zooming problem does not occur with GIMP 2.6, it is specific to the git version.

I tried re-installing completely Debian testing on the computer at work, with no result. Today I imagined another test: I created another account on the same computer, and checked the two problems above. Both have disappeared.

Thus the problem is somewhere in my personal configuration, but where should I search? Do the two problems suggest some idea to anybody?

-- Olivier Lecarme

Olivier
2010-03-31 11:12:29 UTC (over 14 years ago)

incomprehensible behavior with the git version

On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Omari Stephens wrote:

Try running "ldd `which gimp-2.7`" on both machines. I would imagine there's a dependency issue. Specifically, I'd wonder about your versions of X11 and GTK

Since the problem finally occurs on the same machine, but with two different users, it must be a matter of personal GIMP environment. I'm searching in this direction.

LightningIsMyName
2010-03-31 11:22:05 UTC (over 14 years ago)

incomprehensible behavior with the git version

On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Olivier wrote:

Since the problem finally occurs on the same machine, but with  two different users, it must be a matter of personal GIMP environment. I'm searching in this direction.

I had once very "interesting" bugs that only happened to me because of my personal settings - and this was because of the enviroment variables such as the PATH and LD_LIBRARY_PATH. Apparantly, in my case the problem was that because of these variables, the wrong versions of some of the libraries where loaded since I had two installations of Gtk in different places, and I wanted to load the one which was newer and was in a differet location.
Try checking what Omari suggested - maybe you are indeed loading different versions of the libraries in the different users, because of some enviroment variables.
--
LightningIsMyName

Olivier
2010-03-31 11:25:55 UTC (over 14 years ago)

incomprehensible behavior with the git version

On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Olivier wrote:

On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Omari Stephens wrote:

Try running "ldd `which gimp-2.7`" on both machines. I would imagine there's a dependency issue. Specifically, I'd wonder about your versions of X11 and GTK

Since the problem finally occurs on the same machine, but with two different users, it must be a matter of personal GIMP environment. I'm searching in this direction.

I think I have the answer, but I don't know why it is such, and whether I

should file a bug: it depends on the input device mode setting. If the tablet mouse is set to GDK_MODE_SCREEN, its wheel no longer works in the image, although it works in the scrolling bars. It no longer allows to change the text parameters in the image, and the tablet pen, which must be in screen mode for the pressure and tilt parameters to work, cannot be used for changing parameters of a text in the image.

I don't have the same problem on the computer at home because I don't have a tablet there. And a new user does not have the problem, because the input device configuration is in its default state.

Alexia Death
2010-03-31 11:31:28 UTC (over 14 years ago)

incomprehensible behavior with the git version

On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Olivier wrote:

I think I have the answer, but I don't know why it is such, and whether I should file a bug: it depends on the input device mode setting. If the tablet mouse is set to GDK_MODE_SCREEN, its wheel no longer works in the image, although it works in the scrolling bars. It no longer allows to change the text parameters in the image, and the tablet pen, which must be in screen mode for the pressure and tilt parameters to work, cannot be used for changing parameters of a text in the image.

The scroll not working on the mouse with extended device enabled is most likely a gtk issue. current stable GTK has several quircks in the extended device department. for example occasionally mouse does not work at all on the canvas with the tablet connected and quite randomly on next run it will work again.

The text tool controlls not working with the tablet is different tho. Most likely something worth filing a bug against Gimp.

Olivier
2010-03-31 11:52:07 UTC (over 14 years ago)

incomprehensible behavior with the git version

The scroll not working on the mouse with extended device enabled is most likely a gtk issue. current stable GTK has several quirks in the extended device department. for example occasionally mouse does not work at all on the canvas with the tablet connected and quite randomly on next run it will work again.

Should I file a bug about it?

The text tool controlls not working with the tablet is different tho. Most likely something worth filing a bug against Gimp.

I just did it.