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CIE-LCH Color selector?

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CIE-LCH Color selector? SHIRAKAWA Akira 03 Aug 10:45
  CIE-LCH Color selector? Martin Nordholts 03 Aug 16:52
   CIE-LCH Color selector? SHIRAKAWA Akira 03 Aug 17:07
    CIE-LCH Color selector? Martin Nordholts 03 Aug 17:19
     CIE-LCH Color selector? SHIRAKAWA Akira 03 Aug 17:44
      CIE-LCH Color selector? Martin Nordholts 03 Aug 18:07
SHIRAKAWA Akira
2009-08-03 10:45:13 UTC (over 15 years ago)

CIE-LCH Color selector?

Hello,

The last discussion about using CIE LCH for some layer modes made me remember that there is a CIE LCH color selector plugin for GIMP that many people would like to see included in the main GIMP distribution sooner or later. It has room for improvements (for example when colors out of gamut are selected it can lead to some strange color selection results), but it should be a good start to begin from.

Of course there is the source code available, and it's public domain too, according to the author.

I've attached the tar.gz file to this email.

Martin Nordholts
2009-08-03 16:52:26 UTC (over 15 years ago)

CIE-LCH Color selector?

On 08/03/2009 10:45 AM, SHIRAKAWA Akira wrote:

Hello,

The last discussion about using CIE LCH for some layer modes made me remember that there is a CIE LCH color selector plugin for GIMP that many people would like to see included in the main GIMP distribution sooner or later.

Before we add support for picking device-independent colors, the whole color selector should be color managed, and it currently isn't. I'm all for adding a Lab/LCH color picker when that is fixed though.

/ Martin

SHIRAKAWA Akira
2009-08-03 17:07:26 UTC (over 15 years ago)

CIE-LCH Color selector?

Martin Nordholts wrote:

Before we add support for picking device-independent colors, the whole color selector should be color managed, and it currently isn't. I'm all for adding a Lab/LCH color picker when that is fixed though.

Ah, I see, thanks anyway for checking it out.

By the way, as I wrote in another message I'm not a GIMP hacker, but by "not color managed" did you refer to this specific implementation of a LCH color picker or rather the whole GIMP color picking system?

Martin Nordholts
2009-08-03 17:19:54 UTC (over 15 years ago)

CIE-LCH Color selector?

On 08/03/2009 05:07 PM, SHIRAKAWA Akira wrote:

Martin Nordholts wrote:

Before we add support for picking device-independent colors, the whole color selector should be color managed, and it currently isn't.

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"not color managed" did you refer to this specific implementation of a LCH color picker or rather the whole GIMP color picking system?

I'm referring to the whole GIMP color picking system. The color picked using the default color picker is not represented in a device-independent way. One of the consequences is that painting with a green brush on a color managed image might not give a green stroke on the image. The absence of a color managed color picker becomes evident in test images which rotates color, i.e. maps e.g. RGB 0,255,0 in the image to RGB 0,0,255 on the screen.

/ Martin

SHIRAKAWA Akira
2009-08-03 17:44:13 UTC (over 15 years ago)

CIE-LCH Color selector?

Martin Nordholts wrote:

I'm referring to the whole GIMP color picking system. The color picked using the default color picker is not represented in a device-independent way. One of the consequences is that painting with a green brush on a color managed image might not give a green stroke on the image. The absence of a color managed color picker becomes evident in test images which rotates color, i.e. maps e.g. RGB 0,255,0 in the image to RGB 0,0,255 on the screen.

I understand, thanks for explaining.

Can you give a rough estimate of when a color managed picking system will be integrated into GIMP ? I've only recently "discovered" the LCH color space / color selection and I think it's a great system. I know I could for now simply use the current available color selection module (which from what I see is "just" a graphic interface to do LCH->RGB24 color conversions, so it's a sort of "fake" LCH), but it's just my curiosity.

Let me guess: this will happen when GEGL will be fully integrated into GIMP, right (also allowing higher color bit depths which if I'm not wrong the LCH color space needs) ? Then that would be in GIMP 2.10 or even later, I think.

Martin Nordholts
2009-08-03 18:07:37 UTC (over 15 years ago)

CIE-LCH Color selector?

On 08/03/2009 05:44 PM, SHIRAKAWA Akira wrote:

Can you give a rough estimate of when a color managed picking system will be integrated into GIMP ?

Making the color picker color managed has not been incorporated in any short or long term plan yet. So yeah, maybe we will get around to do it in GIMP 2.10 which has big changes scheduled already.

/ Martin