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enhancement for eraser/brush tools: "resurrect erased/cleared"

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enhancement for eraser/brush tools: "resurrect erased/cleared" Alchemie foto\\grafiche 24 May 23:38
  enhancement for eraser/brush tools: "resurrect erased/cleared" saulgoode@flashingtwelve.brickfilms.com 25 May 00:16
  enhancement for eraser/brush tools: "resurrect erased/cleared" GSR - FR 25 May 00:26
enhancement for eraser/brush tools: "resurrect erased/cleared" Alchemie foto\\grafiche 26 May 09:22
  enhancement for eraser/brush tools: "resurrect erased/cleared" David Gowers 26 May 09:44
   enhancement for eraser/brush tools: "resurrect erased/cleared" photocomix 26 May 09:51
Alchemie foto\\grafiche
2009-05-24 23:38:42 UTC (over 15 years ago)

enhancement for eraser/brush tools: "resurrect erased/cleared"

May be very useful for who does photo-montages a option to "resurrect" erased or "cleared pixels, to correct badly cropped details that often are noticed only to late for a UNDO

May sound something magic but is trivial to implement, and since is not based on UNDO may be applied also on already closed images, or even to pre-cut images as png "renders" found on the Web.

Limit is that will work only with layers or images with alpha channel..in this case NOT a painful limit since obviously cuts for photomontages are all saved without stripping the alpha

THERE IS ALREADY a Filter, more exactly a MathMAp code that may do on all the layer ,or even on selected part of the layer,

(see here; http://groups.google.com/group/mathmap/browse_thread/thread/e798e80f753b3d1f?hl=en message number 2)

but would be a useful option for the eraser, and maybe even for other brush tools

Concept, is trivial : the eraser (or a brush tool) if used with "resurrect Erased/cleared" option (if used at 100% opacity ) will modify where applied only the A of RGBA without changing other RGB data, and that will "resurrect" deleted pixel since their color info are still there, only their opacity is changed

Should be not hard to implement

About the obvious objection: "As Gimp has no reason to modify color info of invisible pixels, Gimp filters and tools have no reason to preserve them "

That is true but in practice, when working with photomontages , clear or erase is very often the last operation done before saving , so most of the times will work,more is intuitive guess when it may not work, or not perfectly (= if filter or tool where applied also to the transparent pixels after erasing or clearing )

And from a similar, apparently magic feature (as far i know not present in other image editors)can't be expected 100% success, a big success may be that work very often...and will look as magic to many users

magic and useful, in my opinion

saulgoode@flashingtwelve.brickfilms.com
2009-05-25 00:16:14 UTC (over 15 years ago)

enhancement for eraser/brush tools: "resurrect erased/cleared"

You can accomplish the same thing by adding a layermask to the layer, and initialize the layermask using the "Transfer Layer's Alpha Channel". Subsequently hiding, editing, disabling, and/or removing the layermask permits full control of whether the layer's RGB values are shown.

Quoting "Alchemie foto\grafiche" :

May be very useful for who does photo-montages a option to "resurrect" erased or "cleared pixels, to correct badly cropped details that often are noticed only to late for a UNDO

May sound something magic but is trivial to implement, and since is not based on UNDO may be applied also on already closed images, or even to pre-cut images as png "renders" found on the Web.

Limit is that will work only with layers or images with alpha channel..in this case NOT a painful limit since obviously cuts for photomontages are all saved without stripping the alpha

THERE IS ALREADY a Filter, more exactly a MathMAp code that may do on all the layer ,or even on selected part of the layer,

(see here; http://groups.google.com/group/mathmap/browse_thread/thread/e798e80f753b3d1f?hl=en message number 2)

but would be a useful option for the eraser, and maybe even for other brush tools

Concept, is trivial : the eraser (or a brush tool) if used with "resurrect Erased/cleared" option (if used at 100% opacity ) will modify where applied only the A of RGBA without changing other RGB data, and that will "resurrect" deleted pixel since their color info are still there, only their opacity is changed

Should be not hard to implement

About the obvious objection: "As Gimp has no reason to modify color info of invisible pixels, Gimp filters and tools have no reason to preserve them "

That is true but in practice, when working with photomontages , clear or erase is very often the last operation done before saving , so most of the times will work,more is intuitive guess when it may not work, or not perfectly
(= if filter or tool where applied also to the transparent pixels after erasing or clearing )

And from a similar, apparently magic feature (as far i know not present in other image editors)can't be expected 100% success, a big success may be that work very often...and will look as magic to many users

magic and useful, in my opinion

GSR - FR
2009-05-25 00:26:46 UTC (over 15 years ago)

enhancement for eraser/brush tools: "resurrect erased/cleared"

Hi,
fotocomics@yahoo.it (2009-05-24 at 2138.42 +0000):

Concept, is trivial :
the eraser (or a brush tool) if used with "resurrect Erased/cleared" option (if used at 100% opacity ) will modify where applied only the A of RGBA without changing other RGB data, and that will "resurrect" deleted pixel since their color info are still there, only their opacity is changed

How does this differ from the current "anti erase" tool option (quickly enabled also by holding Alt key)?

GSR

Alchemie foto\\grafiche
2009-05-26 09:22:51 UTC (over 15 years ago)

enhancement for eraser/brush tools: "resurrect erased/cleared"

How does this differ from the current "anti erase" tool option
(quickly enabled also by holding Alt key)?

Maybe does not differ

BUT there is a Problem

there is not any documentation in the help on a "anti-erase" option or tool so i believe almost only who contribute to implement it know about it

David Gowers
2009-05-26 09:44:12 UTC (over 15 years ago)

enhancement for eraser/brush tools: "resurrect erased/cleared"

On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Alchemie foto\grafiche wrote:

How does this differ from the current "anti erase" tool option
(quickly enabled also by holding Alt key)?

Maybe does not differ

BUT there is a Problem

 there is not any documentation in the help on a "anti-erase" option or tool so i believe almost only who contribute to implement it know about it

This is simply not true.

http://docs.gimp.org/2.6/en/gimp-tool-eraser.html

2009-05-26 09:51:28 UTC (over 15 years ago)
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enhancement for eraser/brush tools: "resurrect erased/cleared"

OOPSS ...my apologies i should have check better before writing nonsense