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help on .po handling Marco Ciampa 28 Feb 09:32
  help on .po handling Marco Ciampa 28 Feb 15:18
   translated license header [Was: help on .po handling] Marco Ciampa 01 Mar 16:47
    translated license header [Was: help on .po handling] Ulf-D. Ehlert 02 Mar 22:04
     translated license header [Was: help on .po handling] Marco Ciampa 03 Mar 00:33
      translated license header [Was: he lp on .po handling] Ulf-D. Ehlert 04 Mar 20:44
       translated license header [Was: help on .po?handling] Marco Ciampa 05 Mar 10:23
Marco Ciampa
2009-02-28 09:32:17 UTC (over 15 years ago)

help on .po handling

As a try, in my local copy of the repo, I've added this:

$ svn diff src/appendix/fdl.xml Index: src/appendix/fdl.xml
=================================================================== --- src/appendix/fdl.xml (revisione 2767) +++ src/appendix/fdl.xml (copia locale) @@ -10,6 +10,54 @@

Version 1.2, November 2002

+ +
+ This is an unofficial translation of the GNU Free Documentation License + into -language-. It was not published by the Free Software Foundation, + and does not legally state the distribution terms for software that + uses the GNU FDL-only the original English text of the GNU FDL does + that. However, we hope that this translation will help -language- + speakers understand the GNU FDL better. +
+
+ (The GIMP Documentation Team)
+
+ +
+ This is an unofficial translation of the GNU Free Documentation License + into -language-. It was not published by the Free Software Foundation, + and does not legally state the distribution terms for software that + uses the GNU FDL-only the original English text of the GNU FDL does + that. However, we hope that this translation will help -language- + speakers understand the GNU FDL better. +
+
+ (The GIMP Documentation Team)
+


but po/it/appendix.po is _not_ updated. The strange thing is that I now see the added para in the html output and I'm wondering how it works...

Marco Ciampa
2009-02-28 15:18:55 UTC (over 15 years ago)

help on .po handling

On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 09:32:17AM +0100, Marco Ciampa wrote:

As a try, in my local copy of the repo, I've added this:

$ svn diff src/appendix/fdl.xml Index: src/appendix/fdl.xml
=================================================================== --- src/appendix/fdl.xml (revisione 2767) +++ src/appendix/fdl.xml (copia locale) @@ -10,6 +10,54 @@

Version 1.2, November 2002

+ +
+ This is an unofficial translation of the GNU Free Documentation License + into -language-. It was not published by the Free Software Foundation, + and does not legally state the distribution terms for software that + uses the GNU FDL-only the original English text of the GNU FDL does + that. However, we hope that this translation will help -language- + speakers understand the GNU FDL better. +

[cut]
sorry, this is totally wrong since it is visible also in the english version...

I'm doing some tests...

Marco Ciampa
2009-03-01 16:47:01 UTC (over 15 years ago)

translated license header [Was: help on .po handling]

I found this way to handling this text.

In this way the english text make sense for the en version and yet the translators, looking at the notes, can create a coherent text for the translations.

These two paras, following the license directive as published by the FSF, must appear on every translated version of the licence.

Please feedback. If we convey on this, I'll commit this patch.

svn diff src/appendix/fdl.xml Index: src/appendix/fdl.xml
=================================================================== --- src/appendix/fdl.xml (revisione 2770) +++ src/appendix/fdl.xml (copia locale) @@ -10,6 +10,47 @@

Version 1.2, November 2002

+
+ +
+ Note that any translations of the GNU Free Documentation License are not + published by the Free Software Foundation, and do not legally state the + distribution terms for software that uses the GNU FDL-only the + original English text of the GNU FDL does that. +
+ +
+ The GIMP Documentation Team
+
+


Ulf-D. Ehlert
2009-03-02 22:04:27 UTC (over 15 years ago)

translated license header [Was: help on .po handling]

Hi Marco,

your text looks good to me (nice idea with the two paras).

Suggestions: 1) In the po files you can't see the "para tags", so you should consider replacing "para tags" with e.g. "msgid". 2) We chould add a link to the English GPL, e.g. ... distribution terms for software that uses the GNU FDL - only the original English text of
the GNU FDL does that.
3) " -language-" is a bit discrete, maybe better ""?

Ulf

Marco Ciampa
2009-03-03 00:33:51 UTC (over 15 years ago)

translated license header [Was: help on .po handling]

On Mon, Mar 02, 2009 at 10:04:27PM +0100, Ulf-D. Ehlert wrote:

Hi Marco,

your text looks good to me (nice idea with the two paras).

Suggestions: 1) In the po files you can't see the "para tags", so you should consider replacing "para tags" with e.g. "msgid".

ok good point, done.

2) We chould add a link to the English GPL, e.g. ... distribution terms for software that uses the GNU FDL - only the original English text of
the GNU FDL does that.

ok good idea

3) " -language-" is a bit discrete, maybe better ""?

right, done.

I've removed the tags. The text is way too large to fit in such a narrow place and make the paragraphs soooo long. Maybe it could be handled better with your 2nd solution with .css files that you posted some days ago.

In the meantime if it could go I'll commit these changes. Chosmetic changes are not so important and could be done without ml peer review, IMHO.

Ulf-D. Ehlert
2009-03-04 20:44:09 UTC (over 15 years ago)

translated license header [Was: he lp on .po handling]

Marco Ciampa (Dienstag, 3. März 2009, 00:33):

I've removed the tags. The text is way too large to fit in such a narrow place and make the paragraphs soooo long. Maybe it could be handled better with your 2nd solution with .css files that you posted some days ago.

The epigraph layout is defined in gimp-help-screen.css, starting with .epigraph {
padding-left: 55%;
so you can always override this (thus combining both solutions) with .appendix .epigraph {
... /* what ever */
(of course this would affect other epigraphs in appendix files as well).

You may also try other tags, e.g. legalnotice or abstract...

In the meantime if it could go I'll commit these changes. Chosmetic changes are not so important and could be done without ml peer review, IMHO.

Yes, good idea.

Ulf

Marco Ciampa
2009-03-05 10:23:51 UTC (over 15 years ago)

translated license header [Was: help on .po?handling]

On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 08:44:09PM +0100, Ulf-D. Ehlert wrote:

Marco Ciampa (Dienstag, 3. März 2009, 00:33):

I've removed the tags. The text is way too large to fit in such a narrow place and make the paragraphs soooo long. Maybe it could be handled better with your 2nd solution with .css files that you posted some days ago.

The epigraph layout is defined in gimp-help-screen.css, starting with .epigraph {
padding-left: 55%;
so you can always override this (thus combining both solutions) with .appendix .epigraph {
... /* what ever */
(of course this would affect other epigraphs in appendix files as well).

That could be a sub-optimal solution...

You may also try other tags, e.g. legalnotice or abstract...

You _definitely_ know these things better than me.

I know, I must thank you for giving me a reason to study better the inner workings of the GIMP manual structure, but I'm afraid to do too much mistakes on it and noise on this list...

I'll do some experiments and I'll post here the diffs before commiting anyway.

Really thanks for your patience...

In the meantime if it could go I'll commit these changes. Chosmetic changes are not so important and could be done without ml peer review, IMHO.

Yes, good idea.

Done.